John's Journal 08/19/02: Dead Celebrities
A comedy article
by John Hargrave 128,742 73 08/19/2002 12:29 PM 725 views
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Someone recently asked me an interesting question, which I pondered this weekend as I watched the Elvis retrospectives on EVERY SINGLE CHANNEL, INCLUDING THE FOOD NETWORK. Thought I could get away from the 25th anniversary of the King's death with a little Sara Moulton, but instead, they were showing us how to make Elvis' favorite dishes, including deep-fried peanut butter sandwiches and Ding-Dong Pizzas.
Anyway, the question was this: of the world's artists/authors/performers who died prematurely, which three would you have liked to remain alive? I found this a difficult question. If Kurt Cobain had remained alive, for instance, we would probably view Nirvana as just another Pearl Jammy, Soundgardenish band from the grunge era. I was going to say Hillel Slovak, the original Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist, but he paved the way for John Frusciante, who led the band on to greatness. Andy Kaufman's death was timed perfectly, if in fact he really died.
The more I thought about it, the more I realized that dying prematurely is the best way famous people can cement their celebrity status. Tupac has sold more records dead than alive. Hemingway was good, but after he shot himself, he was great. And did we really need Elvis around any longer? The Pelvis would have ended up on late-night infomercials, hawking "Best Of" collections and doing self-deprecating cameos on Saturday Night Live.
"Look who owns this pet shop, honey! It's Elvis!" [Crowd woots and hollers]
"Sorry folks, I ain't got nothin' but hound dogs." [Raucous applause and laughter.] "Thank yuh."
After much discussion, I came up with these three:
Douglas Adams. Because the world's greatest comedy science fiction author should have lived at least long enough to finish his novel A Salmon of Doubt, which they recently released anyway. That's just unfair. (Died of heart attack.)
Freddy Mercury. A musical genius who was always doing interesting things, I wonder what he would have completed had he lived. And, more importantly, whether he would have kept the mustache. (Died of AIDS-related complications.)
Falco. The Vienna-born musician scored a number-one U.Shakespeare in the 80's with "Rock Me Amadeus," but never achieved follow-up success of quite the same magnitude. I think if he had lived a bit longer, he would have. (Hit by automobile.)
I'm interested to hear how other people respond to this question. What three celebrities would you have kept alive, and why? Click "GAB About This Article," below.
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Professor Nutbutter 181,255 35
08/19/2002 01:06 PM
Freddy Mercury is a pretty good choice but I've got three words for you: Radio Ga Ga.
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Jay Cornelius 411 13
08/19/2002 01:09 PM
Jimi Hendrix - Very curious how he would have taken his art higher.
Jon Bonham - A drummer waaaaay ahead of his time.
Chris Farley - I just liked the guy.
The Drowning Pool guy? - naaah. hardly knew ya.
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Professor Nutbutter 181,255 35
08/19/2002 01:14 PM
$10.00 says Scooter Brown says Cliff Burton. I never saw what the fuss was with him. He's just a bass player.
My picks, without giving it too much thought:
Dwain Allman: He died way too young. One of the few people on Earth who can make Southern rock worth listening to. I'm sure he would have eventually become a joke like Keith Richards or Bob Dylan but we should have got more out of him before he died.
Phil Hartman: Because you can never get tired of Troy McClure, Lionel Hutz, or Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
Heather O'Rourke: Because you just know she would have done a nude scene eventually.
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Jay Cornelius 411 13
08/19/2002 01:14 PM
Postscript: On Chris Farley, that more would more accurately be "I look like that guy."
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Professor Nutbutter 181,255 35
08/19/2002 01:15 PM
and by "just a bass player" I mean he's no Flea or Graham Maby. No offense intended towards bass players.
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Reek Stankleberry 3,653 12
08/19/2002 01:17 PM
Getting old is for suckers.
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shoelace414 10,080 13
08/19/2002 01:26 PM
Hitler.
General Yamamato.
Baby Doc
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Reek Stankleberry 3,653 12
08/19/2002 01:27 PM
Hitler would probably have been pretty entertaining in prison. Like Charles Manson.
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John Hargrave 128,742 73
08/19/2002 02:17 PM
Falco was a joke.
I would have gone with Phil Hartman as my third.
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Chouggy, Thumb Boy 5,183 13
08/19/2002 03:07 PM
John, what the hell were you thinkin' putting a joke in your commentary on a comedy site, huh!!??
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Chouggy, Thumb Boy 5,183 13
08/19/2002 03:23 PM
Those that I wish were still alive today:
Ronald Regan - more actors should become polititans, they're good at fakin' it
Bob Hope - nothin' like taking a joke into the ground by the best
And of course:
John Hargrave - he could write the best nipple joke
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Reek Stankleberry 3,653 12
08/19/2002 03:26 PM
Those people are alive you friggin idiot.
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(Just Only) Trixxie 65,021 15
08/19/2002 04:14 PM
John Lenon
Marilyn Monroe
Janis Joplin
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Squeamish 38,986 14
08/19/2002 05:02 PM
I'm pretty sure Falco's career nosedive had nothing to do with his death.
His career died in the early 80s, his head died a few years ago when he got hit by a bus in Honduras.
I wish John Travoltra had died prematurely.
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Disabuser 3,439 11
08/19/2002 05:47 PM
I miss Dodi Fayed and whatshername.
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Boots at the Boar 2,305 11
08/19/2002 09:18 PM
He-Man: The Master of the Universe. He taught me what being a man is all about.
Woody Woodpecker: Come on, his last name was pecker.
Scooby-Doo: Oh, wait. He's not quite dead yet, never mind that the plot died after episode two.
Look at my woodpecker. I know you want to touch my woodpecker. Tell me, "who's your woodpecker? Whooooo's yo woodpecker, biatch?"
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Dr. Funkenstein 537 11
08/20/2002 01:12 AM
Douglas Adam's best work was behind him. He was mailing it in for paychecks at the end.
Randy Rhoads should still be alive. It would kick much ass to have him hanging out at Ozzy's house as the Whacky Neighbor.
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Pug and the Elf in his Head 593 10
08/20/2002 01:36 AM
Jim Varney
Jim Henson (not that he'd done much of note since "Labyrinth")
The guy from Blind Melon
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Old Kentucky Shark 2,859 12
08/20/2002 02:44 AM
I'd like to see what AC/DC would be like today if Bon Scott was still around. Freddie Mercury is an obvious choice. And my third would have to be Jerry Garcia. Froster died just before I got into the Dead, and I never got to see them in concert.
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jellytot 3,504 11
08/20/2002 07:57 AM
JFK. We'd be walking on mars by now.
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Lap Nectar 156,785 17
08/20/2002 10:18 AM
John Belushi - one of the greatest comics who ever lived.
Grace Kelly - timeless beauty that should've "graced" our world a bit longer.
Andy Kaufman - a misunderstood comedic genius way ahead of his time.
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Marilyn 12,471 13
08/20/2002 11:54 AM
Dylan Thomas
John F. Kennedy Jr. (his dad if you hadn't said celebrity)
River Phoenix
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Professor Nutbutter 181,255 35
08/20/2002 01:23 PM
Yeah, such a shame about JFK Jr.
He had so many more years of "being a rich guy who could buy his way into any industry he wanted to" ahead of him. The world is truely at a loss.
Too bad he didn't buy an IFR ticket before he bought that fancy new airplane.
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 04:49 PM
"and by "just a bass player" I mean he's no Flea or Graham Maby. No offense intended towards bass players."
As far as technical bass playing ability goes, he was far better than average. But the real great thing about him was what he added songwritingwise. Listen to Master of Puppets, then listen to And Justice For All. His contributions added a lot of colour. He was the bass player, but he didn't just write bass parts.
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 04:50 PM
Yes, I did a search for my name.
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Professor Nutbutter 181,255 35
08/20/2002 04:58 PM
When a man lies he murders
Some part of the world
These are the pale deaths which
Men miscall their lives
All this i cannot bear
To witness any longer
Cannot the kingdom of salvation
Take me home
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goatwarrior 56 11
08/20/2002 05:12 PM
I wish Chris Farley was still alive and I wish Michael Jackson was still black.
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Fizzgig 2,531 11
08/20/2002 05:18 PM
Besides Jim Henson and Douglas Adams, though I'm not sure Jim Henson would have gone much further with his career.
Carl Sagan. I had really hoped to one day meet him...somehow...somewhere.
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 06:23 PM
So here's my list:
Pythagoras
Plato
Proclus
Zarathustra
Plotinus
Euclid
Homer
Lao Tzu
Whoever wrote Ecclesiastes
Appolonius
Archimedes
Miyamoto Musashi
Whoever wrote the Gospel of John
Aquinas
Descartes
Newton
Mozart
John Dowland
Euler
Gauss
Einstein
Beethoven
Liszt
Vivaldi
Jung
Stevie Ray Vaghan
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 06:25 PM
Oh yeah,
Cliff Burton
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vertical bob 26,707 13
08/20/2002 06:29 PM
Imagine if we had a few more decades' worth of Mozart compositions. Kick. Ass.
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 06:40 PM
He's not famous, but I wish Loreena McKennitt's fiance hadn't died so she wouldn't have quit making music. (and you know, so she could be happy, too)
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WalterEgo 0 10
08/20/2002 07:01 PM
JFK Jr. Here's a guy who's dick never dried. Certainly not when they found him. He threw back Daryl Hannah! I believe the plane went down cause he was doing the sister in law. My hero!
Bon Scott. Not the first to drown in his own vomit. But found dead in a car drowned in his own vomit... I wanna party with him!
Hemmingway. He too could party. You gotta admire his exit though, from man to mural, "I'm a famous writer. BLAM! I'm a famous painting!"
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Chouggy, Thumb Boy 5,183 13
08/20/2002 07:25 PM
> Those people are alive you friggin idiot.
*joke flies over the head of Reek*
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Dopplegangbanger 19,936 13
08/20/2002 09:13 PM
you obviously aren't familiar enough with Reek's style.
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Boots at the Boar 2,305 11
08/29/2002 07:46 PM
Mozart sucks.
Hyden kick's mother-freakin-ass!
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orbitsville 3 10
08/30/2002 05:32 PM
Bill Hicks
Bleeding Gums Murphy
Betamax
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jawahalar 23,705 11
12/16/2002 03:31 AM
)))))))))Stevie Ray Vaghan(((((((((
And my DAD.......
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crazy heathen 0 8
07/06/2004 11:52 PM
hitler
stalin
princess diana
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ringworm 68,315 13
07/07/2004 01:24 AM
i lived in my car when this was originally published.
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Frogpop 173,148 25
07/07/2004 02:04 AM
showoff.
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GoBanana 590 10
07/07/2004 04:07 AM
i can only think of one
Owen Hart
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Dolphin Meat 2,598 8
07/07/2004 09:30 AM
Van Zant
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Scorpion 4,080 9
07/10/2004 07:21 PM
Those that I wish were still alive today:
Ronald Regan - more actors should become polititans, they're good at fakin' it
Bob Hope - nothin' like taking a joke into the ground by the best
And of course:
John Hargrave - he could write the best nipple joke
When originally posted, these three were all alive. Today only one lives on. Can you spot the not dead?
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Zuggo 311 8
07/10/2004 08:22 PM
Lets see... I would choose:
Whichever two beatles died
And Jimi Hendrix, of course
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Lunchbear 14,650 10
07/15/2004 03:51 PM
i have to agree with the Jim Henson one.
Next would be Buddy Holly.
Threeth: Ian Kevin Curtis, former lead singer for Joy Division. While I guess New Order was a pretty good result of his death, I think Joy Division had a lot more maturing to do, in which they would rock our Frost-ing faces off over time.
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yorkydee 709 9
07/15/2004 08:55 PM
Gilda Radnor, she was absolutely brilliant. One of the greatest female comedians ever.
Jimmy Stewart, a great actor, a true war hero (unlike those so called heroes who never served yet americans still call hero...like John Wayne), a great family man, an all around nice guy.
Princess Diana. after being abused and used as a brood mare by that ugly Emerson Charles, she deserved to out live him and cause him trouble for the rest of his life. He married her only to create "acceptable" heirs to the throne. All the while he had that extremely ugly, nasty horse face Camilla on the side. Nobody deserves to be treated the way Diana was.
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theOh 43 8
07/16/2004 01:46 AM
V.I. Lenin
John Bonham
Jim Morrison
Keith Moon
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Feckoff 2,552 9
07/16/2004 06:04 AM
Yorkydee what's the big deal with Princess Di? She never got past the level of slightly annoying, cow eyed, semi-celebrity. Once she put her Head and Shoulders on the dashboard though,the media suddenly decided she was really special and everybody went along with it. The Americans were just so in love with the idea of a Princess that they were willing to see it as some kind of fairy tale. Mother Threasa died a month or two later and barely got a mention. So please, stop going on about Princess Di.
(p.s idea for a memorial song for Mother Threasa though.Instead of 'Candle in the Wind' we could have 'Sandles in the Bin')
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All the good names are taken 73 8
07/17/2004 09:43 PM
John Bonham
Jim Morrison
and Belushi of course.
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Bong Rip Bob 320 8
07/17/2004 09:44 PM
I gave everyone clickies who said something about Morrison, Hendrix, SRV, or Bonham. ZUG has excellent musical tastes.
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Bong Rip Bob 320 8
07/17/2004 09:45 PM
I found you all on different threads though since I can't do it here. I go out of my way to be awesome sometimes.
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bob the weasel slayer 166 8
07/17/2004 11:11 PM
Miachel Jackson's face
Jimi Hendrix and
John Bonham
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asinity 0 8
01/07/2005 04:15 AM
Michael Jackson's nose.
Douglas Adams.
Kurt Cobain.
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Connie Snuffaluffago 10 8
01/07/2005 02:10 PM
Phil Hartman
John Candy
Judy Garland
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The Fais 84 8
01/24/2005 01:47 AM
1. George Harrison: The underappreciated Beatle.
2. John Bonham: Greatest drummer to ever live. Except maybe Animal, but he was a muppet.
3. Peter Sellers: A comedic genius.
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dekk 26 8
01/24/2005 01:52 AM
Marty Feldman, 1933-1982.
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REAPERR-FU 12,363 11
01/24/2005 02:46 AM
Red Skelton
Redd Fox
Lenny Bruce
Jonathan Winters
Richard Pryor
I know that is 5 but most of today's funnies derived from these 5 in some way
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Stabby 0 8
01/27/2005 05:45 AM
1. Jimi Hendrix. C'mon man... he was... a purer form of emotional expression through music
2. Woodrow Wilson im Canadian, and if my sources are correct he was president of the US during WWI. Hilariously enough, he had the solution to prevent WWII, but nobody listened to him. Maybe if people like him were still in power today...
3. Joh Bohnam C'mon, ZEPPELIN would still be around... ZEPPELIN
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Ravos, The Taco Squirrel 695 8
08/26/2005 12:01 AM
Optimus Prime: Such a tragedy
Bruce lee: Often imitated, never duplicated.
And i dunno/care about a third.
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viovis 0 7
02/18/2006 12:45 AM
Orson Welles and Ben Franklin. Because they're extreme!
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Can o' Slick 564 8
02/22/2006 08:40 PM
- Douglas Adams, he was still doin' good. Although dying from a heart attack in your fourties is just harsh.
- James Dean, booyah! Should've made more movies before biting the dust.
- On the third rank, I just can't decide. John Belushi? Franz Kafka? Bertold Brecht probably, but he got old enough. Let's just say John Belushi, just for the sake of "Blues Brothers 2000" never happening... I kinda like John Goodman, but that fat Frost as Jake Blues? I hope whoever had that idea wakes up covered in scorpions and rattlesnakes that are eating his genitals.
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Can o' Slick 564 8
02/22/2006 08:41 PM
Also, also isn't spelled although, but also. Although is spelled although, although I also misspelled that on several occasions.
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John Wayne Isn't Dead; He's Frozen 18 7
02/23/2006 09:05 PM
Right off the bat, number one: Freddie Mercury. He is the greatest frontman of all time, from the greatest band of all time. He kept rock and roll alive, and brought his own music to the table at the same time. R.I.P. Freddie.
Second, would have to be Jesus. Just because he's......great. 'Nuff said.
Third, last but not least, would be Winston Churchill. Truly, the best war leader in history. So knowledgeable, so liberal, so....Winston.
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Whistler P. McManus 185,800 44
03/05/2006 05:22 AM
1. Dale Earnhard, Sr.
2. Skynyrd!
3. Chickens
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Princess Consuela Bananahammock 48 7
03/05/2006 06:22 PM
I think Freddy Merucry is the most deserving of it.
But I wish Tupac and Biggie were still alive. Why? So then people could stop bitching about it.
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Alarm Clock the Patient Robot 6,348 4
06/27/2009 01:19 AM
I was actually looking for a Dead Pool when I found this. Anyways:
*Count Dracula-not the historical Vlad, but the one that always gets smoked in movies.
*Caligula-love to see how bat Shakespeare he would be after this long. "Caligula 2012"
*Don Herbert-always terrible when the world loses a great wizard.
Does this place have a Dead Pool? If so or not, I claim Paul Ruebens.
Short personally exclusive list where:
100 - (Dead person's age) = points awarded
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Tali S Woman 25 6
06/27/2009 08:16 AM
Donald Trump-- oh wait, he's not dead yet, just his toupe.
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Dogs Akimbo 211,165 32
06/27/2009 08:37 AM
Jesus, all those people would smell like crap.
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Rock LobstARRRGHH!!! 18,496 32
06/27/2009 05:06 PM
3. Chickens
Wait, Chickens is dead?!?!?!?!11/1!?11
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Pubah 56,744 18
06/27/2009 09:45 PM
Phil Hartman
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Gilda Radner
Malcom X Little Shabazz
Jesus died right on time
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Whistler P. McManus 185,800 44
06/27/2009 10:59 PM
The other day we were sitting in a diner having breakfast and the newspaper headlines were about Ed McMahon's death. So my 11-year-old son, Liam, started asking questions about who Ed was, why he was famous, and so forth.
I can't begin to give out that kind of information without doing vocal impressions and calling out the famous catchphrases, so I gave him a little background on Johnny Carson ("that's some wild, weird, weird shtuff.") and then moved on to Ed.
My wife started telling me, "Quiet down, Jim," but you really can't do justice to Ed McMahon sotto voce, so I kept bellowing them out:
"And now, heeeeere's Johnny!"
"YES, OH GREAT ONE!"
"YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!"
"OH HO HO HO HO HO!"
(My Ed McMahon impression is actually an impression of Phil Hartman doing an Ed McMahon impression).
And then I realized that the whole place had gone quiet, and people were staring at me. And they did not look amused.
Ah, well. If they don't appreciate it, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their shorts, and may their arms be too short to scratch them.
Ed: "A triple and a double, catcher's and fielder's, and Dolly Parton"
Johnny (as Karnak): "Name two big hits, two big mitts.....and a famous country singer!"
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