John Hargrave 128,746 73
04/22/2003 09:30 AM

Heh.



I haven't seen his new show, but I read this morning that it's doing OK in the ratings. That's surprising, as I couldn't agree more about his thankfully short-lived stint on "Weekend Update."

Stringy McNoodles 4,643 11
04/22/2003 09:35 AM

Hmm. I wish I lived in America. Some stuff about a guy I don't know...he's crap...SCROTUM!...funny hand comment...that ginger bloke.



Bravo, I enjoyed it!

Virnomine the Haberdasher 79,386 11
04/22/2003 09:35 AM

You could just do what sal does and start a thread there gardenback...

The Supreme Empress Trixxie Moon LeMay 65,021 15
04/22/2003 09:49 AM

Colin Quin was hired for people my age, who can remember way back when Both Colin and SNL had any funny.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 09:53 AM

Colin was funny on the Larry Sanders but you're right he was the worst Weekend Updater since Kevin Nealon.



Norm Macdonald (Who started out at the same club I slough about in) was painfully unfunny in the role.



Hey do another prison rape joke Norm, oh wow another OJ reference! How does he do it? Writes 15 minutes of OJ jokes in only a week! Nice thing about Norm is that he's a jerk with a gambling problem and has pretty much destroyed his career.



Hmmm sometimes sour grapes can taste pretty sweet.

Antipodean Zugtart 86,684 14
04/22/2003 09:58 AM

I don't know anybody that bardengack has mentioned!

With the exception of Denis Leary, and I only know him cos of his jolly good song - 'I'm an Emerson'.



I'ts tardhubbys theme song.

Therlin 12,200 13
04/22/2003 10:05 AM

I watched his show for the first time last night and I agree with Gardenback. He ruined just about every joke he attempted to tell.



I did enjoy how the guests seemed often genuinely upset with each other.

Therlin 12,200 13
04/22/2003 10:06 AM

I will add that the bastard didn't let them discuss any topic at length. Whenever it started to get good, he'd make them move on.

dinesh 24,862 16
04/22/2003 10:24 AM

sweet god, i think this is some sort of practical joke played on me.



i think the show is funny, and what is remarkable is how little the guests take the back and forth personally.



Colin tells a lot of bad jokes, agreed, but it's the grease that makes the show go. His role isn't to be a funny guest, it's to be the show straight man, the project manager if you will.



When one of his jokes lands completely flat it's a thing of beauty. It's like "squeamish is fat"...funny, then very quickly unfunny, and eventually it becomes sorta funny again. well, maybe that's a bad example.



Colin was funny at one time, but it completely predates SNL. think "Remote Control". Sing along with Colin!



I love Norm MacDonald, too. That dry humor is just my speed.



You all can die and go to hell.

Stringy McNoodles 4,643 11
04/22/2003 10:29 AM

Ignore him, he's just mad 'cause he's hairy.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 10:42 AM

Norm Macdonald story:



Norm and three other comedians are doing the Canadian Western Circuit, a long haul of going from Shakespeare hole town to Shakespeare hole town, it's the forge that seperates the comedians from the wannabees (Hence me never going, I know where I belong!). Norm bombed the first night out, bad. The next day in the car he sat in the middle seat not saying a word, just looking out the window and sort of bobbing his head. The others took his silence as pain for the previous night's disaster so they said nothing. That night Norm went on stage with a whole new set and killed, he completely wrote a half an hour's worth of material on the fly in a car, in his mind.



This is the sort of stuff that ledgends are made of. Everyone I've ever met that worked with him said he was amazing live. I don't know what happened cuz he sucks donkey ball now.

Spicey McHaggis 117,736 36
04/22/2003 11:13 AM

I watched a couple of episodes of Tough Crowd. I don't remember what they were talking about. I just kept thinking that they need to keep the camera on Sarah Silverman. She's yummy. I even like her puppet on Crank Yankers.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 03:58 PM

Norm Macdonald is hands down the best SNL weekend update anchor ever. There will never be better.



Salvage, do you purposely try to make statements that are controversial, or have you been spending too much time with Marilyn?

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 04:04 PM

Yes Timmy, you're a good judge of comedy.



I love it when you disagree with me, it quells any doubts I might have. I can now safely get that Norm MacDonald Sucks tattoo knowing that the statement is true and just.



Oh and him getting his ass fired from SNL and his POS show getting cancelled after a handfull of episodes and his movie going to video faster than a Tony Danza / Steve Guttenberg vehicle is more than confirmation that whatever talent Norm had he bet away during a bender in Vegas.

John Hargrave 128,746 73
04/22/2003 05:17 PM

Come on, Norm is a frickin genius. His standup is/was great, too. I cannot believe there are GABbers who do not find anything but tremendously funny.



Dennis Miller was also a genius. How could you leave out the great Dennis Miller in your discussions of "Weekend Update"?



And what about Chevy Chase? Come on, man, he was the original anchor!

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/22/2003 05:19 PM

Interesting reactions... I don't know what it is about Norm MacDonald, but he seems to be one of those love 'em or hate 'em type of folks. I personally find him hilarious. I think Dirty Work is going to go down in history as some sort of comedy cult classic. His show was pretty funny too, but I think they cancelled it when the guy who played Norm's boss (formerly the dad on Alf) went on a coke bender.

As for Tough Crowd, the non-Colin Quinn segments are decent, but they always tack on a Shakespearety segment at the end starring Quinn. There was a particularly horrific one the other day where he was offering life advice to a young black temp worker. It was the most uncomfortable five minutes of videotape I've seen outside of History channel specials on the horrors of war.

Supercunt 19,936 13
04/22/2003 05:26 PM

I like Colin Quinn. His show is good. Norm MacDonald is cool too.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 05:30 PM

Hah Salvage, Johnny stepped on your potatos. Eat that Au Gratin!



I dunno, Dennis Miller is ok at times. I feel about David Letterman the same. Funny once in a while, but mostly just entertaining.



The two funniest guys on TV I can think of are Conan O'Brien and Jon Stewart. They're both clever but add style to their humor. When Stewart makes a joke straight faced, or when O'Brien adds a bit of physical comedy I always crack up. Sometimes the packaging helps sell the product. Norm Macdonald has an incredible delivery when he's on. Dennis Miller is more about being ironic. Will Farrel is all about being over the top while acting like nothing out of the ordinary is going on. So sometimes it's not as much what you say but how you say it.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:37 PM

First off John, you're wrong. Norm was a walking "Huh? Huh? didjaget it? OJ stabbed 'em! Huh? Huh?" He was painfully unfunny.



I know I'm in a minority here and elsewhere with this opinion. (The guy is worshiped at the Ottawa Yuk's) He just never made me laugh. Granted it's art and therefor eye of the beholder and all that. But if Maha thinks he's funny...



Miller was the king and the thing is everyone else who's followed has been in his shadow. He took a very tired comedy format and made it fresh and vital. That's pretty much the golden ring of any pursuit.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:39 PM

John Stewart is the funniest non-animated thing on TV today. If I were a TV suit guy I would snap him up and drop him and his people into a late night chat show. He would bury Dave (Who let's face it lost it when he lost the sneakers) and Jay "Nice guy to doormat to whore" Leno in a second.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 05:40 PM

Salvage, Miller wasn't that funny. He still isn't that funny. He's about a notch higher on the scale than Leno. If you say you find Leno funny, you're getting a mail bomb FedEx'd to your house.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 05:42 PM

And Jon Stewart had a talk show and it tanked. I think he may have finally come into his own comedically on the Daily Show. The style of humor has helped him thrive.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:43 PM

You are the fractal of stupid. Just when I think I've reached the end of your no-nothing another spiral opens up and down I go.

Virnomine the Haberdasher 79,386 11
04/22/2003 05:47 PM

I haven't been able to watch the Daily Show since 9/11. They lost what they had after that, now they are doing nothing but political Shakespeare and are having real guests on. I liked it better when it was all an inside joke kind of thing, but I guess you can only pull that off for so long. Anything successful will eventually get ruined by TV executives.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 05:47 PM

The fractal of stupid? Please leave the mathematical terms to people that actually have an education. If you had said my level of stupidity grows exponentially, or if my lameness is unbounded in 2-space, I might see your point. Even stupid to the power of three would have been something worthwhile to say.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:49 PM

No my fractal thing works nicely, once again you're wrong.

Virnomine the Haberdasher 79,386 11
04/22/2003 05:49 PM

Will you 2 just have some angry sex and be done with it? sheesh, all this foreplay is tiring.

Slick D 5,357 10
04/22/2003 05:50 PM

Tracy Morgan is hands the funniest ever.

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/22/2003 05:54 PM

This is some thought-provoking Shakespeare right here. I'm not a big fan of John Stewart. I like the Daily Show, and I think he's a good comedy writer (his book was great), but I don't like his delivery. There's something about that repetitious stalling thing he does that gets on my nerves. On the other end of the spectrum, I think Norm MacDonald is a master of timing. So perhaps the actual issue is, some of us prefer joke content while others lean towards the actual delivery. I don't think Norm MacDonald could be translated well into book form.

Any of you guys familiar with Mitch Hedberg?

dinesh 24,862 16
04/22/2003 05:54 PM

i can't get away from people fighting on any of my message boards. perhaps i should just go home and watch tv with my one true friend...err, the tv.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 05:54 PM

Tracy Morgan is the Frost-ing Shakespeare.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 05:55 PM

Gardenback, Hedberg is the Frost-ing Shakespeare. I swear to God that guy is a Frost-ing genius.



"This shirt is dry-clean only....which means it's DIRTY."

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/22/2003 05:56 PM

Hedberg is truly one of the under-appreciated masters... I wish his movie would hurry up and be released somewhere.

Virnomine the Haberdasher 79,386 11
04/22/2003 05:56 PM

boy, there sure is a lot of Frost-ing Shakespeare out there...

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/22/2003 05:57 PM

Of course, it's springtime.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:57 PM

I have an autographed Mitch Hedberg CD and spent a weekend hanging with him when he came to town.



By hanging I mean I got to pick him up at the airport and bumped into him at the mall.



Mitch Hedberg leaves me in stitches and awe.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 05:58 PM

Pringles can! For Christ's sake he made a Pringles' can funny.

Trumpet the Insult Badger 1,677 10
04/22/2003 05:59 PM

Tracy Morgan is funniest in his female rolls. Like Aunt Jemima and Star Jones.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 05:59 PM

Who's that other dude, Zack Galafinakis? I probably misspelled his last name but that guy is the Frost-ing Shakespeare.

Stringy McNoodles 4,643 11
04/22/2003 06:00 PM

Pringles cans are always funny, they have the dude with the moustache on 'em. People with moustaches are always funny. Look at Hitler.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 06:01 PM

And Arlon Williams...the dude who played Kenny on Half-Baked. That guy said some insane stuff on Conan. Also the Frost-ing Shakespeare.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 06:07 PM

There's this cat from Toronto called Jason Rouse, you'd love him Manny, the dude is weird evil funny. He has a bit about him and his brother being neck Frosted by his dad that really makes you laugh and vomit.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 06:11 PM

While he isn't a "comedian" per se, I think Brandon DiCamillo from the CKY videos is quite possibly one of the funniest mother-Frosters of our time. For that matter the minds behind CKY are unparalleled.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 06:12 PM

While I'm sure to recive a proper bootFrost-ing what's CKY?

El Volante 10,315 10
04/22/2003 06:15 PM

Tracy Morgan created Astronaut Jones which is absolutely brilliant in it's simplicity. It and the Ben Stiller/Will Farrel "The H is O" sketch are the funniest things to come out of SNL since Belushi died.

El Volante 10,315 10
04/22/2003 06:16 PM

Camp Kill Yourself... Bam Margera's original stuff before Jackass. Similar format, toned for TV.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 06:16 PM

Stands for Camp Kill Yourself. Basically these kids out in West Chester, Pennsylvania who were really really really good at skating took some of the money they earned from sposorships and spent it on video/audio/editing equipment and released a series of videos. About 25% skating and 75% nihilistic humor that one would have to be absolutely Frost-ing insane to partake in. After its rising popularity they went on and created MTV's "Jackass"

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 06:23 PM

Oh I'll bet it's a zillion times better than Jackass.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 06:28 PM

I wouldn't doubt it but I really don't know because I haven't seen the show. Now the MOVIE had its way with me and left me feeling pain in my sides. But yeah the CKY Shakespeare is Frost-ing brilliant, do yourself some good and try and find these videos sal, you won't regret it.

dinesh 24,862 16
04/22/2003 06:34 PM

not too hard.

Doc 7,105 13
04/22/2003 06:52 PM

Norm was funny because he has a different style, and weekend update was *always* about doing the same jokes each week. It's called "tying it together". Germans love David Hasselhoff. Oj did it. salavage, it's like you're one of the people that don't get running jokes. That was why it was funny. Yes, it was the same thing every time. That was the point.



His stand up was good too. Dirty Work was hilarious. However, there are only a handful of people that are consistently funny, and constantly produce. These people are just people.



Colin Quinn, however, I am with mr. gardenback. His delivery sucks. And it's almost as if he does it on purpose. And he has this Frost-ing smirk on as if "I'm doing it this way on purpose... every time, with ... awkward halts."



Take a breath, Colin Quinn.





Dennis Miller is a good example of when a person gets stuck in a rut. If you find something that is good, fine, run with it, but don't be afraid to change. there are people who enjoy Dennis Miller's style, and good from them. Just like Pantera, Friends, and Aerosmith, it won't change. They'll keep pumping out the same Shakespeare just as long as people want it.



Conan O'Brian. Someone needs to teach this man that it is okay to TAKE RISKS. He is so afraid to lose his small group of 17-22 year olds that he has gotten for himself.



Kevin Nealon was funny on weekend Update. Just not super funny. The problem is is that there are people that are improvisationally funny, and have great minds, but just like any normal human being, they're prepared jokes might not alwayShakespeare. Kevin Nealon's stand up is funny, but just not that funny. However, on Crank Yankers, he's one of the best. His mind is agile.

Supercunt 19,936 13
04/22/2003 06:56 PM

Aerosmith has changed. They used to be good.

Long Live Saddam! 11,939 13
04/22/2003 07:10 PM

Yeah, keep on telling yourself that.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 07:17 PM

Like I said it's all subjective, everyone has their own opinions and are correct.



We all agreed that Mitch Hedberg is brilliant that's all that really matters.

Doc 7,105 13
04/22/2003 07:22 PM

No you're opinion is wrong beause you are a greasy canadian.

salvage of the Elite 28,986 12
04/22/2003 07:31 PM

Yeah greasy like a fox!

Doc 7,105 13
04/22/2003 07:33 PM

Do you guys get good weed up there?

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/22/2003 08:07 PM

Let's get this frieght train back on the hate tracks. Is anyone familiar with Andy Kindler? I once saw him to do some stand-up on NBC's Late Friday and he didn't get a single laugh. I don't know how he got a gig on Everybody Loves Raymond.

Supercunt 19,936 13
04/22/2003 08:11 PM

Pantera doesn't need to change. They need to put out another album. Friends should've gone away after the 2nd or 3rd season.

Mr. Gardenback 8,660 11
04/26/2003 03:45 AM

If I'd known it made you happy I would have misspelled more Shakespeare.

alabaster 0 10
04/27/2003 03:21 PM

stephen wright and craig kilborne are Apparently not funny at all now i admit conan blows craig out of the water but cmon craig was the original daily show anchor he did Shakespeare with that show that jon stewart could never do

alabaster 0 10
04/27/2003 03:22 PM

what is punctuation exactly?

Cueball 19,242 12
04/27/2003 05:20 PM

Welcome to Remote Control!





God, that show sucked.



The other guy on that show wasn't funny at all either.



At least they had Adam Sandler.



Yeah, Frost you if you don't like him.

Tone Deaf Hippie 11,939 13
04/27/2003 09:02 PM

I thought Sandler was funny on SNL, in fact I thought he was Frost-ing brilliant. It's just that his movies, well, they suck. There's very little in the way of a payoff when you sit through him not acting and trying to move the plot along.



I'll tell you who i think is a Frost-ing genius is that Dave Attell. That man is hands down brilliant.

Feeble, Annoyer of Gabbers 32,400 15
04/27/2003 09:03 PM

I have yet to see an Adam Sandler movie that didn't make me wince with pain at the utter stupidity of it.

The Supreme Empress Trixxie Moon LeMay 65,021 15
04/28/2003 10:28 AM

The first Curly was the funniest.

qLoP 451 0
04/04/2004 03:56 AM

i love colin, i gave u a maha mother-Frosta



tough crowd 4eva!

Al Sleet 77,546 17
06/28/2008 12:53 PM

Wow. This is a really Frostin' old thread.

Wendy Lady 156,785 17
06/28/2008 01:55 PM

God I miss Gardenback.... and Cadillacs. I miss his extreme knowledge of Cadillacs too.