Professor Nutbutter 181,311 35
06/28/2004 02:53 PM

If there were a Jeopardy category called "Posts" and the answer was "dude is like a professor about this stuff" the correct question would be "What line is guaranteed to discredit all that came before it?"



Carry on.

Kittuns is Starting Over 44,835 9
06/28/2004 02:55 PM

Has everyone read my booger thread?



I wrote a song about it.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 03:01 PM

The weakest argument I felt that Moore made was a tossup between Bush's ties to the Bin Ladens and that he stole the 2000 election (is there really much evidence to support the latter theory?)



The strongest arguments were regarding foreign policy with regard to Iraq and erosion of Civil Liberties via Patriot Act.

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
06/28/2004 03:12 PM

I thought that Al Gore putting down his own party members attempts to prevent Bush's anoinment was a good thing to include just because I never saw it.



However it's over and done with, focus more on making sure it doesn't happen again.



Also the whole bin Laden connection thing was gay, oil barons of all nationalities do stuff together, big whoop.

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
06/28/2004 03:14 PM

Oh and I thought Moore was being an ass with the whole "Coalition of the Willing" thing. He went ha ha look at all the little armyless nations in the coalition but skipped Spain, Italy, Poland and a host of others who went and shed blood for Bush's adventure. I thought that Shakespearety and a direct contradiction to his later "support the troops" thing.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 03:17 PM

Yeah, that was pretty lame. He should have focused more on how Dubya didn't seem to give a Shakespeare if he could build worldwide support before going in.

BobJohnson, Talking Martini Glass 178,045 22
06/28/2004 03:20 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but, if Michael Moore's brain is in his stomach, this will probably be the most intelligent movie of all time.

superturkey 6,678 0
06/28/2004 03:22 PM

havn't seen the movie, don't intend to, but might one day. moore is a douche who just makes too much stuff up.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 03:22 PM

I don't think it is, though. Because the movie never once focused on McDonalds.

PowBlocks 782 8
06/28/2004 03:25 PM

SuperTurkey isn't talking out of his ass.

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/28/2004 03:32 PM

I'm completely shocked by the posts in this thread! I figured that most of you were intellectual people who would be willing to hear BOTH sides of the story with an open mind. This country is so scared to admit that we make mistakes, it's unbelievable. Michael Moore is an intelligent man willing to put his balls on the line to give us the information to form our own opinions...information that mass media has been covering up since the war began. And all you can do is say that he's lying?



I have 2 questions:

1.) Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

2.) Is the progression of this war worth all of the lost American citizens and billions of dollars to all of you?



The majority of people in this country are lead by the hand by the mass media and fed whatever they'd like us to believe. I strongly urge people to do some homework and get the facts before you start spouting what you heard on the 5 o'clock news.



I strongly believe that Bush is a Frost-ing idiot and the USA looks like a bunch of fools for putting him in charge of our country. The first time he was elected was a mistake...I only pray we don't screw it up again.



I have 2 brothers that are of draft age and I absolutely dread the thought of them being called up to fight in a war that is complete bullShakespeare. This is the Vietnam of our generation and I shudder at the thought of where this country is headed if Dubbya gets to keep his room in the white house.

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
06/28/2004 03:36 PM

1.) Where are the weapons of mass destruction?



Dust in the desert wind and in the fevered dreams of Saddam.

BobJohnson, Talking Martini Glass 178,045 22
06/28/2004 03:38 PM

piXXie! I can't believe you didn't read my intelligent, witty remark!



Plus, what would you would expect from The World's Only Republican Comedy Site?

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 03:41 PM

Oh now you've done it Bob.



Prepare to be smote by The Mighty Hand of Hargrave.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 04:04 PM

You bastards.



'Mighty Hand of Hargrave' deserves at least one clickie.

SuperDuper 280 10
06/28/2004 04:09 PM

I can't believe you guys think the President is the sole person responsible for everything that happens.The President has one powermove and thats the power to veto bills on his own.He can also declare war without Congress voting to go ahead with it.Other than that he can't go to the bathroom without approval.



There's an elaborate system of checks set up in our government to keep one branch of government from making major impacting decisions without the approval of others.



I'm not a rabid Democrat or Republican, but there is way too much Bush bashing going on.Heh heh,"bush bashing" .~Beavis and Butthead laugh~

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 04:11 PM

Do you honestly think that if Ronald Reagan were president we would be involved in this fiasco?

Chapped Labia/Sandy Vulva 311 9
06/28/2004 04:45 PM

I think that bush is a boob with a leaking implant. he needs someone to come in and clean up his mess before the cancer spreads.

superturkey 6,678 0
06/28/2004 04:47 PM

too late for that.

SuperDuper 280 10
06/28/2004 04:59 PM

"Do you honestly think that if Ronald Reagan were president we would be involved in this fiasco?"



I think anyone who would be president at the time would be in the same position no matter who they are or which political party they belong to.Terrorists declaring war on us and our allies....the only logical step is to fight back or try bribing them in the old fashioned American way,and after 9/11 I think negociating went out the window.That wasn't the first attempt to try to bring the WTC down or first terrorist attack against Americans,but I think it was the straw that broke Bin Laden's camel's back.



As far as Reagan I only remember two things about him.Thats the assasination attempt and him pumping a godly amount of money into Star Wars and other defense projects which constributed largely to the deficet we have.Not saying he was a bad pres but he had his negative feedback as well.

ringworm 68,315 13
06/28/2004 04:59 PM

i might have downloaded this while i slept. i'll watch the movie once, but not in a way that allows moore to have any of my money.



to the doofus up there that thinks moore is offering up any less spin than fox news, stfu.

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/28/2004 05:05 PM

Ringworm...I think your level of intelligence is proven perfectly by your post. Rather than stating any reasoning behind your choice, you resort to petty name calling. I don't plan on arguing any points with someone of about the same IQ as our dear old Dubbya...

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/28/2004 05:06 PM

Bob,









You're my favorite.

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/28/2004 05:08 PM

SuperD, I hardly believe that the president is the sole person in charge of what's going on in this country. However, he did declare war AGAINST the suggestions of the rest of the government, against the recommendation of the UN...and come to find, he did it all for NO reason! I don't think he's the only idiot involved, but he is in the position to take the glory or the bashing for anything that happens during his presidency.



I do not believe that anyone in that position would have declared war in the way that he did. He lied. End of story.

Anita Lover Who Won't Drive Me Crazy 6,762 9
06/28/2004 05:10 PM

Plus, what would you would expect from The World's Only Republican Comedy Site?





Bob, you're a liar. There is no such thing.



Republicans don't have a sense of humor.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 05:46 PM

I don't blame Bush for the september 11 attacks. I do however, feel that blame is directly upon his Administration for the current situation in Iraq. Bush used lies, innuendo and half-truths to capitalize on the fear of the American people to exact his personal revenge upon Saddam Hussein.

ringworm 68,315 13
06/28/2004 05:50 PM

pixxie - he's not giving you information on which to form an opinion. he's just spinning it in the opposite direction. his distorted picture of reality jives more closely w/ what you want to believe, so you accept it as truth. if you like, you are free to explain why you don't think he's just another part of your much-despised mass-media.



he's not putting anything on the line, because anyone who might have cause be threatened by his work knows he's too much of a sensationalist, loudmouth, self-aggrandizing prick to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn't already share the bulk his views. in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't matter. he makes movies. at times, he's funny. his fans may think he's a big, fat, heroic monkeywrench in the gears of the fascist death-machine, but he's really just an entertainer, and he's going to make some phat lewt off this thing.

Misfit 1,104 10
06/28/2004 05:55 PM

The thing is that the right already has a whole Shakespeare load of fat, sensationalist, loudmouth, self-aggrandizing pricks. It's about time the left got at least one.

DeadMike 3,390 10
06/28/2004 06:00 PM

However, he did declare war AGAINST the suggestions of the rest of the government



I guess that would explain why the congress voted AGAINST the war, right? Right?

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/28/2004 06:07 PM

Congress approved the war because the Bush Administration lied.

Mofo Baggins, Heavy Whacko 10,950 10
06/30/2004 12:48 AM

I just now saw Fahrenheit 9/11. I never understood how the anarchy types could get so pissed about government until now. I'm ready to start my own nation. Who's with me? It'll be called "AppawhatchamaFrost" and all forms of laws will be illegal. (I know you're all thinking "WTF?")



Some people say this film changes the minds of republicans. When the film ended, a handful of people were clapping, and the rest were 60 year old rich white people (the ones who hadn't walked out on the movie) staring at the screen with this look of ultimate contempt for Michael Moore. You know the bitchy, rich, arrogant white Shakespeare-heads i'm talking about. Ah, figures. The town that is the birthplace of the Republican party is 20 miles away from where I live. Somebody rescue me. Please.

faeryfyrre 134 8
06/30/2004 01:42 AM

he's not putting anything on the line, because anyone who might have cause be threatened by his work knows he's too much of a sensationalist, loudmouth, self-aggrandizing prick to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn't already share the bulk his views. in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't matter. he makes movies. at times, he's funny. his fans may think he's a big, fat, heroic monkeywrench in the gears of the fascist death-machine, but he's really just an entertainer, and he's going to make some phat lewt off this thing.



If Moore, and the message he is trying to tell, is so irrelevant then why did George, Jeb and Disney try so hard to block it's release?

ringworm 68,315 13
06/30/2004 05:19 AM

if he was any threat, he'd be dead. maybe it's just his whiteness that keeps him breathing. i tried to watch this last night, but i only lasted about 10 minutes before i figured i could find something better to do w/ my time. picking my ass, for example. i'll try again some other time.

ringworm 68,315 13
06/30/2004 06:01 AM

<action>decides against posting a long-ass tinfoil hat rant.</action>

Jajoba 1,357 10
06/30/2004 06:02 AM

Do you honestly think that if Ronald Reagan were president we would be involved in this fiasco?

If Reagan were president that'd be weird, seeing as he's dead and all.



However, a dead guy might make a refreshing change from the dimwit in charge at present.

Lamburger 33,017 9
06/30/2004 07:14 AM

Good movie. But I fear I'll never get John Ashcroft singing out of my head.

Trixxie (Spicey McFaggot) LeMay 65,021 15
06/30/2004 09:34 AM

Micheal Moore is the left's Rush Limbaugh. Even though I share his leftist views I can't respect him any more than I can respect Rush Limbaugh.

Frogpop 173,153 25
06/30/2004 09:41 AM

Damn diggity, Trix.

BobJohnson, Oil Baron 178,045 22
06/30/2004 02:14 PM

if he was any threat, he'd be dead



. . . Just like Bin Laden.

TheFoye 55,700 16
06/30/2004 02:42 PM

Democracy: Four wolves and a lamb voting on lunch

Chickens aint in Kansas anymore 286,472 61
06/30/2004 02:49 PM

Is it my imagination, or did Trixie spell every single word in that thread correctly?

Chickens aint in Kansas anymore 286,472 61
06/30/2004 02:52 PM

I have 2 brothers that are of draft age and I absolutely dread the thought of them being called up to fight in a war that is complete bullShakespeare. This is the Vietnam of our generation and I shudder at the thought of where this country is headed if Dubbya gets to keep his room in the white house.



1. there is no draft at this time

2. there were single days in Viet Nam that had more American deaths than in all of this war put together.

3. this war had limited clear objectives that have been reached, once again, unlike VN.



So how again is the the VN of our generation, cause I'm not seeing it?

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 03:42 PM

It struck me during the second half how seldom one sees in mainstream US media any extended interviews with Iraqis who vehemently oppose the US occupation. Since these are probably by now a solid majority, according to polls...

What polls?



it is odd that we never hear from that point of view.

I hear about it all the time. NPR, Houston Chronicle, NBC News, CNN, FOX News, to name a few.



There is an undertone of patriotism or even nationalism to national American news that is peculiar if one looks at the industrialized democracies in Europe, e.g.



It's a terrible thing when the media has pride in their country.



The film has an affecting scene of a woman screaming that her innocent, civilian relatives had been killed, and calling down curses on the US (yikhrib buyuthum, may God demolish their houses). Given the thousands of Iraqis killed in the past 14 months, there must be a lot of persons who feel that way. Moore is the only one showing them to us, to my knowledge.

That's because their god is the offspring of Satan.



I thought the point that Bush spent a lot of time away from Washington in his first 8 months in office was well made, and dovetails with the revelations of former anti-terrorism czar Richard Clarke about Bush's unconcern with the terrorism threat.

I definitely agree.



The way in which the Iraq war was a manipulated get-up job was also graphically and well portrayed. Likewise the cynical use of the "war on terror" to erode Americans' basic civil liberties is appropriately presented in canny and strident tones (James Madison would have been strident about this, too).

1) How can a war on terror be anything but cynical?

2) Actually James Madison would probably say something a little different.

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 03:42 PM

James Madison quote #1: A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.

James Madison, Federalist No. 51, February 8, 1788



Gee, it sounds like James Madison is saying that sometimes adjustments have to be made in order to protect the people, whom, by the way, are supposed to control the government, not the judges.





James Madison quote #2: Among the numerous advantages promised by a well-constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction.

James Madison, Federalist No. 10, November 23, 1787



Gee, it sounds like James Madison would be in favor of going after terrorists cells, such as the faction of Islamofascism.



James Madison quote #3: How could a readiness for war in time of peace be safely prohibited, unless we could prohibit, in like manner, the preparations and establishments of every hostile nation?

James Madison, Federalist No. 41, January 1788



Gee, it sounds like James Madison would be in favor of a pre-emptive invasion.



James Madison quote #4: The invasion of private rights is chiefly to be apprehended, not from acts of Government contrary to the sense of its constituents, but from acts in which the Government is the mere instrument of the major number of the Constituents.

James Madison, letter to Thomas Jefferson, October 17, 1788



Gee, it sounds like James Madison realizes that privacy will indeed be intruded upon when it is necessary to protect the majority.

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 03:43 PM

To summarize: James Madison concedes that hostile forces will want to attack us, we should do every thing we can to stop that from happening, even if it means attacking them first, or usurping some rights of the American people to save the majority of them.



For the layperson: Quit acting like a bunch of pussies and realize that we are in fact at war with an enemy who wants the destruction of our way of life and will not stop until islamofascism rules the entire world.

Oh and of course James Madison would present this in "canny and strident tone," just like Michael Moore.



The interview with Michigan congressman John Conyers in which Conyers reveals that no one in Congress was allowed to read the Patriot Act before voting on it was breathtaking. I recently sat next to Conyers on a plane, and he explained to me that the final version of the bill, which had been very extensively changed, was delivered the night before the vote. He said it wasn't strange for a few minor changes to be made at such a late stage, but that it was his impression that virtually a new bill was dropped on the hapless Congress at the last moment. It is huge, and would have been impossible to read all the way through with attention under those circumstances.



Then why did he, and most of the rest of congress pass it?



I'd have to pretty much agree with the rest of it. Overall, however, it's a pretty weak review.

Frogpop 173,153 25
06/30/2004 05:11 PM

conjunctorrific!

Kittuns is Starting Over 44,835 9
06/30/2004 05:19 PM

Who let Eekstein McTalksAlot in?

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/30/2004 05:41 PM

I'd like to know what clear objectives have been reached? WMD? I haven't heard about any. Restructuring Iraq's economy? Hmmm...doesn't sound like that's been worked through. We sure as hell have done a good job securing those oil wells, though, huh? I just think Dubbya is a Frost-ing Poe for not telling us we're going over there for oil and to finish what his daddy couldn't.



And actually, there are more deaths to date in this war than there were this far along in Vietnam. Like I said...let's do our homework.



We've handed their government back to them. Let's bring our boys and girls home and work on restructuring OUR OWN Frosted up democracy. The same democracy that gave the presidency to a man who not only didn't win the popular vote (the good ole electoral college is a bitch), but didn't even win the electoral vote, either!

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
06/30/2004 06:12 PM

That's because their god is the offspring of Satan.



Really, no point in reading anything after that.



Whenever I see something like that I reminded of a child saying "Oh yeah? My dad can beat up your dad!"

ringworm 68,315 13
06/30/2004 06:39 PM

huh? he won the electoral vote. if not, he wouldn't in office.

Kittuns is Starting Over 44,835 9
06/30/2004 06:48 PM

huh? he won the electoral vote. if not, he wouldn't in office.



What kind of nonsensical information is this!



We all know he won the election because he owns way more steer than that Gore guy.

ringworm 68,315 13
06/30/2004 06:54 PM

insert the word "be" as needed.

Kittuns is Starting Over 44,835 9
06/30/2004 06:57 PM

behuh? hebe wonbe thebe beelectoral votebe. ifbe notbe, hebe wouldn'tbe in officebe.



Is this some kind of pig latin?

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 07:32 PM

I see that Ford Prefect is back.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 07:35 PM

Then why did he, and most of the rest of congress pass it?



Cuz if they hadn't, whiney crybabies like you would have screamed bloody murder.

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 07:49 PM

That's because their god is the offspring of Satan.



Really, no point in reading anything after that.



Whenever I see something like that I [SIC] reminded of a child saying "Oh yeah? My dad can beat up your dad!"



What else do you call a religion that promotes the murder of innocents in order to gain rewards in heaven. That doesen't sound like a "great god" to me.

Fluro 14,139 11
06/30/2004 07:55 PM

The religon dosent promote it. The extreamists promote it, and it is up to us to see they dont get their way.

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 07:56 PM

Then why did he, and most of the rest of congress pass it?



Cuz if they hadn't, whiney crybabies like you would have screamed bloody murder.



Oh I see, so your saying that the politicians are doing the will of the people. What a novel concept.



I don't know what your definition of whining is, but I think your a little off there Mr. deep insight. This is called expressing an opinion.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 08:02 PM

I don't know what your definition of whining is, but I think your a little off there Mr. deep insight. This is called expressing an opinion.



Whining goes something like this: "Do something about Terrorism! I don't care if it costs me my civil rights! As long as I feel safer!"



And, quite frankly, all that's been accomplished is giving people the perception of security. We're no more secure than we were 3 years ago, we just have fewer basic rights.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 08:03 PM

You're actually right though. That's not whining. It's bitching.



Glad to set the record straight.

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 08:19 PM

Whining goes something like this: "Do something about Terrorism! I don't care if it costs me my civil rights! As long as I feel safer!"



your argument weak and your attempts to put words in my mouth is pathetic.



And, quite frankly, all that's been accomplished is giving people the perception of security. We're no more secure than we were 3 years ago, we just have fewer basic rights.



please name one right that you've lost. Just one. Just a "basic" one, as you call it.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 09:25 PM

The 4th Amendment has suffered erosion at the hands of the Patriot Act.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 09:29 PM

Not to mention the due process clause of the 5th amendment.

Fluro 14,139 11
06/30/2004 09:30 PM

So, uhhh is your tinfoil hat comfortable?

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 10:01 PM

The 4th Amendment has suffered erosion at the hands of the Patriot Act.

Not to mention the due process clause of the 5th amendment.



You're a damn fine googler there sir! I asked you what rights you have lost, not what rights the terrorists have lost.



you can't answer me a non-googled response because you haven't lost any rights. So let me get this straight, you are upset about the one person who has been denied due process in this country: Jose Padilla, the suspected dirty bomber who wanted to set one off in Chicago. Your complaining about that?!?



Whose the whiney bitch?

piXXXie 5,871 11
06/30/2004 10:11 PM

I think that this war has definitely cost us some of our rights. How about Freedom of Speech? Anyone and everyone who is pro-war, pro-bush can say whatever the Frost they want and that's called PATRIOTISM. Anyone who disagrees is looked down as though they were a Frost-ing communist or something. Dixie Chicks said they were embarrassed to admit that the president was from their home state...how many radio stations yanked their music? One here in L.A. even had a ticket/t-shirt/cd burning on air! That's freedom of speech? C'mon.



I'll be the first one to say that I respect the men and women willing to give up their lives to defend our country. These people who make Shakespeare for money and put their asses on the line for a war that makes NO sense to me. I support them 100% for serving us. I just DO NOT agree with why they're over there. Especially, when the dickhead that sent them is a Frost-ing draft dodger himself!

Fluro 14,139 11
06/30/2004 10:16 PM

"pro-war, pro-bush can say whatever the Frost they want and that's called PATRIOTISM. Anyone who disagrees is looked down as though they were a Frost-ing communist or something."



Ummm, in the states maybe but over here no one can give support to bush withough being called a "nazi" or a "baby killer" and I suspect that things are pretty much even in the states. Hell, even your post with the burning of the CD on the air... That's freedom of speech too isnt it? After all, how many flags have been burned?



Tell me why it is a bad thing to remove saddam hussain, and how you are going to kill famine in some countires without removing the millitary dictatorship?

Swizz Bitchface 3,957 10
06/30/2004 10:22 PM

HOLY Shakespeare!! DID YOU HEAR THAT PUDDING POPS ARE BACK?!?!

Eekstein 292 11
06/30/2004 10:36 PM

How can you say there is no freedom of speech in America? How many demonstrations and protests have there been in the states? Easily thousands. Dissent is more than welcome in America. You my get chasitised by those who disagree, but you won't get rolled over by tanks.



As for the bashing of the Dixie Chicks, that was just society speaking up against them becuase they didn't agree with them. Loss of freedom of speech occurs when the government intervenes to squash dissent.



Even when protesters were at their fever-pitch peak before the war started, President Bush said that they are free to voice their views becuase that's part of what makes America great.

The Real Rockin Donkey 77,546 17
06/30/2004 10:36 PM

You're a damn fine googler there sir! I asked you what rights you have lost, not what rights the terrorists have lost.



You don't have to be a terrorist to have your rights eroded by the Patriot Act. Watch the movie and you'll see a guy who gets a nice little visit from the FBI simply for bad-mouthing Bush at the gym.



As for Google, all I used it for was to look up the amendments in question. I know which rights are infringed by the patriot act. Those are my words & thoughts.

Gonzo 20,522 17
06/30/2004 10:57 PM

Vlad, you're welcome to every penny I have. Which at last count, was about -20,000,000.00 of them or so. Do with them what you will.

Fluro 14,139 11
06/30/2004 11:05 PM

"Watch the movie and you'll see a guy who gets a nice little visit from the FBI simply for bad-mouthing Bush at the gym." so Moore should be a corpse and salvage should be in handcuffs by now eh.

Dolphin Meat 2,598 9
07/01/2004 02:11 AM

Sorry to bump this thread, bump Damn...I thought there was a post somewhere in here for a link to a download of F 9/11. I was probably thinking of the link way back at the beginning...



The thing is, I'm taking a class on the history and current happenings in the Middle East and said that I knew of mirror sites where the film could be downloaded. I could have sworn that I saw that somewhere here---and google is not helping---and I don't want to look like more of the Jackass that I already am...



Any other good sites?



Help, anybody?

Thanks

Fluro 14,139 11
07/01/2004 02:14 AM

kazaa lite.

ringworm 68,315 13
07/01/2004 02:33 AM

suprnova

Mofo Baggins, M.D. (manic depressive) 10,950 10
07/01/2004 02:41 AM

I'm actually thinking of writing a small book/phamplet as an aid to Michael More's movie, explaining to Republicans and the more conservative Democrats what the issues at heart are, and all that good stuff. Basically it's to play on how much smarter the liberal democrats are than everybody else. Anybody want to help me write it? I can pay in brownies.

Lamburger 33,017 9
07/01/2004 07:35 AM

After you go to Fahrenheit 9/11, keep your ticket stub and mail it to:



George W. Bush

1600 Pennsylvania Ave

Washington DC 20500

With a note attached: "I saw what you did last summer."

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
07/03/2004 05:51 PM

What else do you call a religion that promotes the murder of innocents in order to gain rewards in heaven. That doesen't sound like a "great god" to me.



You sound like a "great big idiot" to me. Hey why don't you look up a little thing history calls the Crusades or the Inquisition? You seem so keen on studying the dual causality between religion and innocent dead people but you don't seem to know a lot. This may shock and disturb you but every crime you can lay at the doorstep of Muslims you can find a Christian and/or Jewish equivalent. It's not the religion that is the issue; it's bad people doing bad things, what sky god they beg favors is immaterial to the horrors they launch.



Anyone who blathers, "My God is bigger than your God" is overcompensating for some sort of inadequacy spiritual or otherwise.

The mysterious Snork 45,655 12
07/03/2004 06:02 PM

You sayin ma penis is small?

Frogpop 173,153 25
07/03/2004 06:25 PM

He's saying your spirit's penis is small.

The mysterious Snork 45,655 12
07/03/2004 06:53 PM

<action> Coleridgeing rifle </action>

You sayin I'm stupid boy?

Eekstein 292 11
07/03/2004 08:33 PM

I'm proud of you Salvage, your debating skills have improved over the past year - you've matured a little bit and for that I say congratulations.



However, one thing that still makes you look like a Frosttard is when you put words in my mouth in a desperate attempt to make me look stupid.



I never said anybody's God was bigger than my God. I only believe in one God, so how can he be bigger than something that doesn't exist? My saying that their god is the spawn of Satan is not spiritual inadequacy - it's what I believe and happens to be the Frost-ing truth. That may be a weakness to you, but on the other hand I think those who belive that "all of our God's can co-exist" is inadequate. They are too contrary to one another.



Anyway, as far as the inquisition, if the same thing were to happen today, I'd say kill all the Frost-ing Catholics responsible for that too.



You wanna talk about inadequacies? What kind of Frost-ing dipShakespeare nut-licking, neighbor felching Frostwad names his website hairy fish nuts? Is that some kind of Freudian slip on your part, dumbass? "Oops! I just named my website what I think about when I'm cleaning my nuts in the shower, and didn't realize it!" Yeah, way to get some instant credibility.



"yay! Let's go visit our hero at hairy fish nuts for all the latest and greatest in the land of lefties! Horray for Salvage's hairy fish nuts...HORRAYYY!!!"



Go ahead and bump this dead thread again and put more words in my mouth, I don't care. This debates dead as far as I'm concerned.

Lila 78,550 13
07/03/2004 08:47 PM

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You challenged salvage. Be prepared for days upon days of this type of "debate".

Lila 78,550 13
07/03/2004 08:47 PM

And by the way, sal, you're winning. Keep up the good work.

Frogpop 173,153 25
07/03/2004 10:43 PM

Cheaters never win, and winners never prosper.

larkknot 3,359 10
07/04/2004 06:15 AM

Eekstein:

You have faith that your version of god is the correct one. Faith is defined as belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. (copied from dictionary.com) There is no proof or evidence that your god exists.

Please stuff it and leave everyone else to intellectual debate.

Fluro 14,139 11
07/04/2004 07:06 AM

In other news, people are giving "Hear Hear!" clickes. Carry on.

salvage semi-lurks 28,986 12
07/04/2004 12:23 PM

Put words in your mouth? How can I do that with it attached to your jammed up your ass head?



Are you new to the Internet? Did you notice that I quoted you above my first paragraph? That's where I was directly addressing your spew. I didn't attempt to make you look stupid, that would be like trying to make Marlon Brando look fat and dead.



The next quote was not something you said, obviously, but rather an all-encompassing reference to your general attitude that somehow one religion is intrinsically better than any other when they're all equal by their very nature. How can one faith-based idea have more validity than another? Does an American Native prancing around his tee-pee for rain produce any more humidity than the Pope shaking his beads at a cloudless sky from the gold embossed Vatican balcony?



Catholics, by the way, hardly have a monopoly on murder for their angry god.



Hairyfishnuts is a reference to something, if you knew what it was you'd be a better person. If the only flaw in that mess of a blog you can spot is the name than you must be so stupid that you plan to retire on your Nigerian investments.

The mysterious Snork 45,655 12
07/04/2004 08:00 PM

I sure hope my nigerian investments alow me to build an army of midgets. With jetpacks.



I'd be the coolest dictator in Africa.