Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 03:05 PM

Chris Reeve was lucky he wasn't married to this guy.

The Reverend Oliver Chest 203,475 12
03/20/2005 03:10 PM

She can swallow on her own. If her family wants her alive so badly, why don't they feed her? Let the husband get on with his life.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 03:10 PM

Her husband caused the brain damage and doesn't want her getting better and testifing or he would take the $4,000,000 plus that's been offered him to walk away.



Right. And the moon landings were faked.

Hammerhead 59,399 14
03/20/2005 03:26 PM

I thought the brain damage was caused by the doctor they sued for medical malpractice?

Dogs Akimbo 211,569 32
03/20/2005 03:31 PM

With his wife in a nursing home, Michael began taking classes in health care at St. Petersburg Junior College. He eventually became a certified respiratory therapist and a registered nurse. Michael today works in an emergency room at a hospital in Florida.

(from this page)



The guy is obviously a sleaze-ball.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 03:31 PM

It's Chickens' right-wing world. Anybody opposing the "moral majority" must be pure evil.

Big Irish Guy 203,956 21
03/20/2005 03:32 PM

"Democrats Srarve Poor Defenseless Cripples"



I hate it when they Srarve people

Space Admiral BobJohnson 178,045 22
03/20/2005 03:35 PM

Chickens is right about the Democrats playing partisan politics. I can't believe they are trying to pass last-minute federal legislation for this. I mean, I'm pissed off enough that they would propose special legislation for one particular case, let alone a case that has already been decided by the state courts.



No. . . wait a second. . . there's something wrong with my post. . .

Virnomine 79,386 11
03/20/2005 03:48 PM

Come on, clearly the republicans want to keep her alive so she can run against Hillary in 2008. Bush proved all you need is a functioning brain stem to beat democrats in an election.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/20/2005 04:16 PM

"Michael... start the reactor, Michael..."

RedstaR Leader of the Red Army 1,068 8
03/20/2005 04:41 PM

She got brain damage in 1990 from lack of oxygen to her brain for five minuets. She didn't have oxygen to her brain because she had a heart attack. She had a heart attack from a potassium imbalance from starving herself because she was bulimic. She did it to herself.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 04:48 PM

You don't understand. Her husband did it to her because he told her she was putting on a few pounds and might want to start working out more.

bignorm 874 9
03/20/2005 04:50 PM

If she gets hungry enough, she'll talk

RedstaR Leader of the Red Army 1,068 8
03/20/2005 04:56 PM

People tell people they are fat all the time. If i laugh at some fat chick and she kills herself because of it (napkin) should her family sue me? Hell no.

Unabridged 42 8
03/20/2005 05:04 PM

Funny how the Christian Republicans yowl at euthanasia and abortion, yet defend their precious right to fry/lethally inject people via capital punishment. Just sayin'.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 05:06 PM

Um.. I really didn't think I'd have to point out the sarcasm of my previous post.



Apparently I do.

Spicey McHaggis 117,752 37
03/20/2005 05:13 PM

Here's a better link.

RedstaR Leader of the Red Army 1,068 8
03/20/2005 05:14 PM

Sorry I get worked up over medical politics. My bad.

Unabridged 42 8
03/20/2005 05:16 PM

Excellent link, Spicey. Thank you.

TableTopJane-I'm a genius in France 173,958 15
03/20/2005 05:26 PM

Heh. Vegetards. I must use that word today.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 31,599 13
03/20/2005 05:31 PM

This is why we will never evolve. We keep derailing the whole "survival of the fittest" principle.



This has got to be costing the taxpayers millions, somehow. Let the bitch die already and spend that money on something useful. Like bombs.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 31,599 13
03/20/2005 05:33 PM

Am I wrong in thinking that it's pretty much a medical fact that this woman will never get any better? I think I read that the damage to her brain is extensive and doctors say there's just not enough left.

Spicey McHaggis 117,752 37
03/20/2005 05:36 PM

Surely there's a way for her to grow her brain back. I hear them stem cells can make themselves into whatever kinda cells they want. We should put some funding into that, pronto!

N a p k i n 30,762 12
03/20/2005 05:44 PM

Yeah, if I called her fat, it's no one's fault but her own for starving herself.



That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 31,599 13
03/20/2005 05:55 PM

Spicey, I just saw that South Park episode last night. I'm selling the box set on eBay, if you're interested.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/20/2005 06:08 PM

She's just resting!

Dogs Akimbo 211,569 32
03/20/2005 06:08 PM

Funny how the Christian Republicans yowl at euthanasia and abortion, yet defend their precious right to fry/lethally inject people via capital punishment.





Okay, I'm only going to say this one:



Jesus told me that it's okay to end somebody's life at the end, but not at the beginning or the middle.

Jesus (The Big Guy) 211,569 32
03/20/2005 06:10 PM

It's once, dumb ass.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/20/2005 06:15 PM

Jesus (The Big Guy)



Whoa, Jesus, you've really been puttin' on the pounds...

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/20/2005 06:33 PM

Chickens, you do realize that she'll never, in one million years of praying, ever get any better, right? The parts of her brain that made her human have atrophied and filled with spinal fluid. She's only slightly less intelligent then the president.

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/20/2005 06:36 PM

That having been said, the husband is a Shakespearesack. And if there's one thing I can't stand, it's when legislators judge from the floor. Wait, it's when judges legislate from the bench? Ah, who gives a Shakespeare. I need to start going to church again so I can be fed answers to life's toughest questions.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:39 PM

If I were ever married, which will happen on a very cold day in Tahiti, and got incapacitated in a similar manner, I would rather be allowed to die than have my family's financial resources depleted to pump the equivalent of Slim Fast into my gullet for the next 10 to 20 years.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:40 PM

For all intents and purposes this woman has been dead for the past ten years. The husband is being forced to suffer through it on a daily basis because her parents can't cope with the fact that she's not going to get better.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:40 PM

Excuse me, fifteen years.

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/20/2005 06:43 PM

If anything the Republicans should want her dead. She's doesn't contribute to society other than to be taken care of on other people's dimes. She's like a welfare recipient or something. We all know welfare women are Republican kryptonite.

TableTopJane-I'm a genius in France 173,958 15
03/20/2005 06:43 PM

<action>walks slowly through the thread</action>Bring out your dead!

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 06:43 PM

She can swallow on her own. If her family wants her alive so badly, why don't they feed her?



Because he will not allow them access. The videos you see on TV were from the last time they had access. He stopped her therapy in 1991. He has a team of hand picked doctors that see her for 10 minutes a year.



You might want to read a bit here.



Especially the myths about Terri section.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:44 PM

Maybe these are Bizarro Republicans.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:45 PM

Why would I want to read your propaganda links?

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 06:47 PM

Cause you might actually drive some truth into that dunkey head of yours?

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 06:49 PM

I would rather be allowed to die than have my family's financial resources depleted to pump the equivalent of Slim Fast into my gullet for the next 10 to 20 years.



Michael has profited off of Terri's incapacitation. They were awarded a million dollars for her health care, which he has been dipping into. You might want to read that site.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:49 PM

"I READ IT ON THE INTERNET! IT MUST BE TRUE!"

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 06:50 PM

I wouldn't put much stock into something I read on a website that is someone's personal crusade. I'll get my news from reputable news sources, thanks.

Spicey McHaggis 117,752 37
03/20/2005 06:53 PM

I'll get my news from reputable news sources, thanks.



Me, too. I only get my news from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 07:01 PM

So if I let you call me "dunkey" does that mean I can call you Shakespearehead? It sounds almost like chickens.

Lamburger 33,017 9
03/20/2005 08:25 PM

I would rather be allowed to die than have my family's financial resources depleted to pump the equivalent of Slim Fast into my gullet for the next 10 to 20 years.



Well I'm guessing she finally lost that weight!

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:36 PM

I'll get my news from reputable news sources, thanks.



Like CBS?

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:37 PM

And if you'll note, that first link up there was to ABC, another bastion of truth.

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:37 PM

One sided truth, granted, but still, a sort of truth.

Lamburger 33,017 9
03/20/2005 08:39 PM

Hey I wonder...is it legal to have sex with your brain dead cripple wife?



If so, I don't get why he wants her dead! Sex 24/7 and no back talk!

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 08:40 PM

Try CNN.



I'm sure you've got some witty retort for that, but, it really can't be any worse than Fox News, or a propaganda website.



Nice talking to you, Shakespearehead.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 08:41 PM

ABC, another bastion of truth.



Your idea of the truth seems to be whatever fits your agenda.

Lamburger 33,017 9
03/20/2005 08:43 PM

Hey, who slipped me these male chauvinism pills?

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:44 PM

funny, donk, i could say the exact thing about you

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:45 PM

you and the Clinton News Network

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:47 PM

and you have made no slight explanation as to why a man who has moved onto another woman, having kids with her, would not take the 4 mil and run...

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 08:48 PM

I expected as much. Ok, you can continue on your little soap box. I'm done wasting my time on your stupidity.

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:51 PM

you have to admit that it's suspicious as hell that he will only allow hand picked right to die doctors see her, and only once a year, blocks access by her parents, and since she is such a burden, will not let anyone else take over as much as they beg him.

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 08:53 PM

Done wasting time spouting your bullShakespeare when someone calls you on it does not equal the other party's stupidity. Quitting when you're shown the errors in your thinking shows your willing ignorance for what you consider your side.

DemoMonkey, Gracious in Defeat. 166,252 10
03/20/2005 08:58 PM

Wiggle your toes, Terri. WIGGLE YOUR TOES!







Nothing?



Worked for Uma Thurman.

Big Irish Guy 203,956 21
03/20/2005 08:59 PM

I am sure that when they were still married they never talked about what they would do if either of them ever were vegetards. That would just be silly. I doubt he could be trying to make sure that she gets what she wanted.

Spicey McHaggis 117,752 37
03/20/2005 08:59 PM

Guys. I think we have much bigger things to worry about. The Sci Fi Channel is showing The Flintsones: Viva Rock Vegas! How the Frost is that considered scifi?! It makes no sense!

millie 116,988 28
03/20/2005 09:11 PM

Sometimes it doesn't matter what a person tells his/her family. When the time comes to let that person die with dignity, the loved ones can't do it.



To me, it shows that he truly loves her that he wants her to finally go in peace. Her parents may think that they are doing the right thing by her, but they aren't. At best, they are deluding themselves that she will miraculously recover, at worst, they are being incredibly selfish because they can't let go.



IF she is really cognizant of her surroundings, what kind of torture must that be? To be unable to speak, move, or respond to those around you?



I hope to hell my family respects my wishes. This issue, I'm sure, has been discussed by people for 30 years thanks to the Karen Quinlan case, and every other case that comes up.



I shudder to think that such a personal issue will be decided by people in power who know nothing about me and what I really want for myself in such a situation.



And I truly feel like my own husband knew me better than anyone else in my family. I would still rather have him, as my ex-husband, make a decision than my parents. (Although both my parents have expressed that they would like to be allowed to die in such a situation, so I'm sure they would do the same for me.)



And now I have to go bump my Frost-ing auction thread again, dammit!

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/20/2005 09:32 PM

it shows that he truly loves her that he wants her to finally go in peace



See, that's the thing. If that was the case, she would have been slipped a cyanide mickey one night, not this pull the food/h2o tube and let her slowly starve to death.

Emily Latella 178,776 15
03/20/2005 09:34 PM

Why is there still all this fuss about a person's right to diet ?



We all have god given rights you know. Dieting should be one of them too.



Women have a right to become a more desirable wife for their husbands, sometimes it might mean loosing the power of speech, sometimes maybe dropping a few pounds.......



sometimes maybe both ....

Whistler P. McManus 186,021 44
03/20/2005 09:42 PM

I love Chickens, but in what bizarro world does he live where the democrats are trying to do something about this?



From all indications, only the husband and a few creepy professorial types are trying to let her die.



The real reason that the repubs are trying to "save" her is that they'll look like a bunch of impotent hypocrites to their christo-fascist wackjob supporters if they don't. One lousy guy trying to let one vegetative broad die, and all the machinations of the right wing death cult unable/unwilling to stop him? That would make the painful truth too obvious.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/20/2005 09:51 PM

Done wasting time spouting your bullShakespeare when someone calls you on it does not equal the other party's stupidity. Quitting when you're shown the errors in your thinking shows your willing ignorance for what you consider your side.



I'd tell you to believe what you want, but clearly you already do.

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/20/2005 10:28 PM

Hey Chickens, radioactive dating shows pieces from meteorites are 4.6 billion years old. You should just quit now. I am undefeatable. *punches air*

Virnomine 79,386 11
03/20/2005 11:03 PM

They were given a whole million dollars for medical care? Wow. I bet that's gone a long way. I'm sure he's really in it for the money. After paying for medical bills for 15 years, paying lawyers for the past 10, I'm sure he'll be rolling in the cash.



Put yourself in that situation. How long would you sit and wait for her to recover? Wouldn't you move on with your life? Wouldn't you want her to die with dignity? Would you want the gov't to step in because they think they know what's better for your wife than you do? Because you read one website and a couple news stories you think you know everything about this case, and that gives you a right to judge the people involved? I thought judgement was reserved only for God?

Itchy Gooch 439 9
03/20/2005 11:32 PM

If a person eats only liquids, is there any chance you will poop solids?

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/20/2005 11:44 PM

Don't talk to Chickens about the Bible. He gets all uppity.

Space Admiral BobJohnson 178,045 22
03/21/2005 03:38 AM

Alright, Chickens, I don't want to debate this case in general, but I am curious about one thing you said.



Chickens: Because he will not allow them access. The videos you see on TV were from the last time they had access.



I'd like to see a link to that information.



CNN: At one point Sunday afternoon, the Schindlers were prevented from entering the hospice in Clearwater, Florida, where their daughter is staying. Sources at the scene told CNN that Michael Schiavo was visiting his wife and didn't want her parents in the room at the same time.



That seems to imply that it's unusual for them not to have access.



Heck, even your terrisfight.org link makes reference to parental visits without mentioning that they're unusual.

557 8
03/21/2005 04:38 AM

She can swallow on her own





And he wants her dead?

wahala 557 8
03/21/2005 04:39 AM

ok so i'm a computer retard

O'Box's Pot of Gold at the End of his Gay Rainbow 14,650 10
03/21/2005 05:46 AM

Vegetables are ruining GAB.

larkknot 3,359 10
03/21/2005 07:32 AM

Chickens, you asked why he wouldn't take the 4 mil... would you take 4 million dollars to go against what you felt was right?

Phuc 237,919 21
03/21/2005 08:42 AM

I used to be a Christian. For real. All evangelical and Shakespeare. Then I remembered that I have a brain. The evangelical approach to the Bible is like buying Larousee Gastronomique and telling the world that it's the book that tells you how to make cookies.



No matter what these supposed "right-to-lifers" think they believe, they are actually just supporting a cabal that uses the bible as asswipe, thinks nothing of murdering thousands to make a buck, and doesn't give a fat rat's ass that if there is a God, they'll spend eternity in the place that's farthest from Him.



Who made Steve Guttenberg a star? Huh? Huh?

wahala 557 8
03/21/2005 08:50 AM

I vote for hindus, you just gotta love any religion that worships elephant headed gods or guys with 8 arms. They don't try to ensure social order or any system of hierarchical control, they just want you to be entertained and smoke copious amounts of pot. So do the world a favour and hug your nearest sadhu.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/21/2005 09:37 AM

I thought that said "sad ho."



Anyone got a paper towel? And some bactine?

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 09:47 AM

So Chickens thinks the husband is skimming from the $1 million, yet he refused to take the $4 million payoff? yeah.. he's in it for the money alright.



He already has a new life with his girlfriend, etc.. He says he's only in it to honor his wife's wishes, and I see no other motive this could be a cover for.



We've heard from the godnuts who think that letting her die is a horrible horrible sin, but where are the real godnuts who think that all this technology is medical witchcraftery, and that the Lord tried to call her home about fifteen years ago? If God's in charge, then he was the one whoe called her number.. time to let her go.

Professor Nutbutter 181,311 35
03/21/2005 09:50 AM

Would somebody please remove Chicken's feeding tube? He's obviously brain-dead and way beyond recovery.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/21/2005 09:51 AM

It all boils down to the parents saying, "If we can't make any money off this, no one will."



Maybe they could sell Terry Shiavo fingerpaintings on eBay.

Virnomine 79,386 11
03/21/2005 09:51 AM

I'm betting a million bucks won't cover much more than a year of round the clock medical care. Even at a hospice. A million dollars comes out to around $2700 a day over the course of a year. This is America, and she's in Florida, I'm betting it's well over a grand a day for her care.

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/21/2005 09:58 AM

Chi, if they have access again, that's a change. The last time they pulled the tube on her, there was an interview with the parents where they said they had not been allowed access in two years. Something about retribution for having videotaped her reacting to their voices, smiling, eyes tracking that balloon, etc. All non-vegitative state evidences.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:09 AM

Tards smile all the time.. it only take 2 muscles.



Get her to frown every now and then and I might change my tune.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:20 AM

Shiny baloons and movement in general tend to attract the attention of eyes.. I'd be more impressed if they told her to focus on a tongue drepresser while they wiggled a baloon around on the other side.



And reacting to noise is non vegitative? Depends on the reaction if you ask me, otherwise its just reflex.



You really don't believe in MRI's and CAT scans and stuff, Chix?



I know that your website tells you he has a crew of death doctors on staff, but these doctors must still be members of the AMA.. they do have ethics.. but, more importantly, when they say someone is braindead, and they aren't, they loose their liscences. We lock up doctors who lie or kill people (Dr. Kevorkian)..

Professor Nutbutter 181,311 35
03/21/2005 10:23 AM

You really don't believe in MRI's and CAT scans and stuff, Chix?



You and your fancy book-learning and your wacky "science."

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/21/2005 10:26 AM

I don't think they should kill her. They should give her to her parents so they can live out the rest of their delusional lives buying lottery tickets, believing in creationism and thinking someday she'll wake up and start doing crossword puzzles. All three things are equally likely. Her husband is, from what I understand, a total Shakespearebag anyway. So let them have their little fantasy. As an aside, I wonder if there'd be such a fuss over this if the family was Muslim?

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:27 AM

I just thought that church folk prided themselves on believing in the unproven or hard to comprehend. My bad..

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:29 AM

I wonder if there'd be such a fuss over this if the family was Muslim?



More so! The Gov't would be keeping her alive in hopes of pumping her for information on Al Qaida once she came to.

Professor Nutbutter 181,311 35
03/21/2005 10:30 AM

No, actually they only belive in stuff that is proven. Because if it's written down in a 2000 year old book it's a fact. Unlike those lies that are the result of examining actual evidence and looking at the world without blinders on.

wahala 557 8
03/21/2005 10:31 AM

I wonder if there'd be such a fuss over this if the family was Muslim?



given the role of woman in traditional muslim society and their pragmatic approach to life and death there would be no fuss, turn it off and get her in the ground quick.

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/21/2005 10:33 AM

Well, replace "Muslim" with anything that means "not white and Christian."

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:35 AM

Don't you mean a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation of a copy of a text that was first written down almost 200 years after the events they describe? Cause judging by those standards, those propaganda websites are starting to look pretty good..

Trixxie 65,026 15
03/21/2005 10:44 AM

Chickie, buy keeping her vegitated body alive, they are keeping her soul from Jesus.

Nerfball 145 8
03/21/2005 11:27 AM

"I don't know, she must have choked."











What?

The Reverend Oliver Chest 203,475 12
03/21/2005 11:43 AM

I stopped reading this thread. But, while I was masturbating last night, I had a thought. And I don't know if it has been posted yet.



Terri can still swallow on her own, yet she is unable to communicate.



I'll marry this goofy bitch. I've been looking for years for a woman that will swallow, and won't complain abot it.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/21/2005 11:48 AM

Bless you, Miss Trixxie!

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 11:56 AM

That's what I meant by "the Lord tried to call her home about fifteen years ago? If God's in charge, then he was the one who called her number.. time to let her go."



..only Trixxie said it all funny like.

The Proud Barbarian Snork 45,655 12
03/21/2005 11:59 AM

I think you're missing an important point, Oliver. She can swallow, sure, but can she suck?

Big Irish Guy 203,956 21
03/21/2005 12:02 PM

She can swallow, sure, but can she suck?



You can always just knock her teeth out and skull Frost her



Does it matter?

daisypie 49,378 9
03/21/2005 12:02 PM

Bless you, too, Frogpop. God bless us all, everyone!

Virnomine 79,386 11
03/21/2005 12:26 PM

Well from the videos I've seen she has a hole in her throat, probably a trach scar or something, but I bet you could probably use it. But I think you would be jizzing into her lungs then.



Which would be totally hot.

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/21/2005 12:38 PM

I just got back from the pound. Got two little kittens I've named Terry and Schivvy.



I think I'll put them in a cage and not feed or water them. Hell, they can't go across the room and fix breakfast themselves. Frost em. Can't talk very well either.



Say, that Pope guy isn't doing too well, is he?

daisypie 49,378 9
03/21/2005 12:43 PM

So you've come around to the church's position on the death penalty too, eh, Chickens?

Good for you!

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/21/2005 12:45 PM

It must be awesome to be able to totally ignore things like "facts" and "evidence."

daisypie 49,378 9
03/21/2005 12:50 PM

I wonder what the republicans and churchies would do if Terri rcovered just enough to mumble out: "please let me die in peace and with dignity"...

Aimless the Worm Goddess 54,807 10
03/21/2005 02:16 PM

Last night on the news a doctor described the medical state she was in. Basically she has no normal brain function though he body reacts to some things (like when she smiles, opens her eyes) it's not because of any outside stimuli or internal thinking its more of a reflex, like when the doctor taps your knee. She has no hope of recovery and is, in essence, a zombie.



I don't agree that starving her is right though. I fully believe that keeping her alive is cruel but killing her in that fashion is more so. People need to wake up and realize that someone is killing her one way or another why not just lethal inject her and let her die quickly? Why is that more wrong than starving her to death? And why is letting her rot in a hospital bed a more humane thing to do? What a wonderful life being a brain dead doll for mommy and daddy to look at each day so they can feel better about themselves until the day they die when FINALLY their daughter can go on to a better place and hopefully pass them as they make their way to hell.

Kittuns Cornish Game Hen Taco™ 44,835 9
03/21/2005 03:12 PM

Hey everybody! Guess what?!



PEOPLE DIE EVERDAY



I think the use of time of the president and congress on this case is terribly wasteful.



We have a huge deficit and there are lots of people who are starving right now because of lack of funding to community services.



$1,000,000 in the account for Terri should be depleted before any decisions should be made.



There are 447 people in the House of Representatives (congress) who make $150,000 per year (for arguments sake). Cost per day for congress to review this case and go all wonky: $188,342.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/21/2005 03:36 PM

What a wonderful life being a brain dead doll



Just like all the chippies on this site! Am I right or what?

Purplehead 406 8
03/21/2005 03:40 PM

If they find it morally right to pull the plug on someone because they are 100% brain dead,it becomes a matter of degree, we might be next.

Virnomine 79,386 11
03/21/2005 04:09 PM

She's a zombie? Then why aren't they feeding her BRAINS!?



Delicious brains!

Lamburger 33,017 9
03/21/2005 04:28 PM

This is all motivated by fear...what if it happens to us? The vast majority of America is babyboomers who know that they are going to live well into their 100's with all this good technology. They know that since there are so many of them, it is going to create a huge burden for the younger workers, making assisted death look pretty appealing for them. I've given up on a Democrat winning until all the babyboomers are too old to vote. And since I have a feeling that they will have voting booths in nursing homes by the year 2030, that may not be for a while.

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/21/2005 05:23 PM

Aimless- the doc you heard from is one of his back pocket docs. Her parents have said that she does respond. I heard a tape her voice this morning on the radio. Granted, she is Frosted up. There is a lot of what sounds like moaning. But her dad was asking her to say hi, and she eventually cranked out a very drawn out "hi, daddy".



She supposedly says mommy or mom when her mother comes in the room. She turns her head away and frowns when Michael comes in the room.



But Michael will not allow the media in to see this kind of stuff.

DemoMonkey. Period. 166,252 10
03/21/2005 08:19 PM

Courts, congress, media campaigns... There must be some less divisive way of choosing who has the right to decide if Terri Schaivo lives or dies.



Maybe an auction.

Squeamish 38,986 14
03/21/2005 09:44 PM

>or he would take the $4,000,000 plus that's been offered him to walk away. $4 mill? In a second. Come on.



If somebody offered me $4M to let my wife's parents do what I believed to be against her wishes I would refuse it, as well.



If the husband is convicted (hell, even indicted) for a crime that put her in that condition I'd say pass the decision-making authority to the parents in a nanosecond. That's not the case, though. When a married person is unable to express their desires for/against medical care it is the spouse that gets to make the decisions, not the parents (isn't this what the fags all want to get married for?). If she had filed for divorce or there was any legal evidence that she wanted her husband to not enjoy the privileges of marriage then I'd vote to let the parents step in instead, but there's not.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 09:49 PM

I found out today that the settlement money is being used for her care, but the majority of her care is paid by medicade, which is awesome because of the cuts the Republicans are trying to push through on the national level. Then also, this $1000000 settlement is exactly the kind of thing that the president's lawsuit reform would put an end too. But I'm glad they support her right to live as a vegitable, as long as she can do it for free.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 09:55 PM

Court-appointed doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery. (Link, at the bottom)



How'd he get them in his pocket exactly?



And yes, I know that yahoo is part of the liberal media conspiracy to not agree with what the Fox tells the chickens.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/21/2005 10:07 PM

Both sides have accused each other of being motivated by greed over a $1 million medical malpractice award from doctors who failed to diagnose the chemical imbalance that caused Terri Schiavo to stop breathing. However, that money, which Michael Schiavo received in 1993, has all but evaporated -- spent on his wife's care and the court fight. Just $40,000 to $50,000 remained as of mid-March.



This is a pretty helpful Q&A about the facts.

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/22/2005 05:12 AM

NPR interviews Dr. Jay Wolfson, a professor of public health and law at the University of South Florida and, in November of 2003, the Florida court appointed guardian ad litem for Terry Schiavo.

Chickens, the Sniper 286,527 61
03/22/2005 07:54 AM

Well, no tube for the gimp.





Clinton appointed judge refuses emergency re-insertion

Phuc 237,919 21
03/22/2005 07:56 AM

I'm sorry for your loss, but the Heat are having a stellar season. Putting your money on them won't get you much, but at least you'll have the satisfaction of backing a winner.

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/22/2005 10:39 AM

Clinton appointed judge refuses emergency re-insertion



Chickens, you are truly an amazing individual. Also, that's the first time the words "Clinton," "refuses," and "re-insertion" have ever appeared in a sentence.



I don't know much about how judge-appointments work, and the links on that half-assed website don't work, but since when do Presidents appoint judges at the state level?

daisypie 49,378 9
03/23/2005 12:24 PM

<action>is patiently waiting for Chickens to lambaste the George W. Bush appointed judge on the 11th circuit court who ruled against re-insertion of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube...</action>

daisypie 49,378 9
03/23/2005 01:13 PM

No? Then maybe some praise for the Clinton appointed judge who dissented, Chickens?

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/23/2005 01:16 PM

I didn't know it was a federal judge. So I retract my earlier question. Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Or as Terri Schiavo might say, "Gggrrrrrrrooooooooooooohhhggggg... *drool*"

Frogpop 173,153 25
03/23/2005 03:05 PM

Huzzah for Daisypie and his fact checking!

Dread Pirate Sunshine: Scourge of the internet 8,426 10
03/23/2005 03:06 PM

all I know is if you leave a vegetable out too long it starts to grow things and smell...

It's much better to eat it while it's still fresh...

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/23/2005 05:59 PM

I've decided to get back to my original post, as from the several emails and IMs, my playing devil's advocate on this issue has muddied the waters.



My original point was that I was pissed at the dems for playing politics during a time of the essence (sic) crisis. Congress was trying to rush through a law to at least get another forum to look at the problem while a woman's life hung in the balance, and Shakespeareheads like Byrd started talking about attaching some tax rollbacks to the bill.



I HATE THAT Shakespeare NO MATTER WHAT SIDE TRIES IT.



Never should unrelated crap be attached to a bill for political gain. Both sides.

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/23/2005 05:59 PM

I've decided to get back to my original post, as from the several emails and IMs, my playing devil's advocate on this issue has muddied the waters.



My original point was that I was pissed at the dems for playing politics during a time of the essence (sic) crisis. Congress was trying to rush through a law to at least get another forum to look at the problem while a woman's life hung in the balance, and Shakespeareheads like Byrd started talking about attaching some tax rollbacks to the bill.



I HATE THAT Shakespeare NO MATTER WHAT SIDE TRIES IT.



Never should unrelated crap be attached to a bill for political gain. Both sides.

Paddy McChickens 286,527 61
03/23/2005 06:02 PM

I will repeat myself if I have to.

Kittuns Cornish Game Hen Taco™ 44,835 9
03/23/2005 06:05 PM

Would someone please reinsert Chickens feeding tube? He's double posting again.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/23/2005 06:26 PM

Ooooooh! Rollbacks!

McChickens Nuggets 286,527 61
03/23/2005 06:34 PM

Shouldn't you be busy makin my icon?

ringworm 68,315 13
03/23/2005 06:49 PM

I was pissed at the dems for playing politics



In a memo distributed only to Republican senators, the Schiavo case was characterized as "a great political issue" that could pay dividends with Christian conservatives, whose support is essential in midterm elections such as those coming up in 2006.



don't hate the players. hate the game.

Shoogagoogagunga 77,546 17
03/23/2005 07:05 PM

It's generally a good idea for lawmakers to pass legislation designed for a single person.



Who's playing politics?

daisypie 49,378 9
03/23/2005 07:15 PM

Pfft!! 'Devil's advocate'... yeah, right!

Chi-Chi P. Felipe 161,353 14
03/23/2005 07:23 PM

I, for one, am outraged that the Democrats would play politics when the Republicans went through all that trouble to parade a retard around the senate and boo-hoo over her poor brain-deadedness to pander to the stupid Christian conservatives who are Frost-ing up anything and everything that is fun and not churchy.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/23/2005 07:39 PM

I HATE THAT Shakespeare NO MATTER WHAT SIDE TRIES IT.



1/2 of that statement is bullShakespeare...