daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 01:29 AM

McGarnagle's no Death Eater, silly!


...but he did get poor Billy killed.

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 02:20 AM

I think I've only seen one of the movies.

But I've read ALL the books. She's no death eater. She kicks ASS.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/26/2007 02:25 AM

Millie, in the first book she tried to convince Dumbledore to not leave Harry with the Dursleys, the only people who could keep him safe. After Dumbeldore died, she tried to get Hogwarts closed down. Do you have to see the Dark Mark on her arm to believe that she's a death eater?

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 02:28 AM

Yes, I need to see the dark mark.

Plus, as I said, I read the books. I don't know what she did in the movies, I don't remember any of that. Then again, I don't remember much of the books, either.

I smoked a lot of pot when I was younger.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/26/2007 02:30 AM

I've read at least book at least once. She's a Death Eater.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/26/2007 02:38 AM

"Hey, outside the window on that broomstick. It's that kid the Dark Lord couldn't kill, the one who poses a huge threat to him. He seems to have an affinity for riding brooms. I think I'll encourage him to join a quiddich team so that Quirrel can kill him."

Humphrey! 51,764 12
03/26/2007 02:39 AM

NERD FIGHT!!

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 02:45 AM

Q: Who's the bigger dork, the LOTR fanboy or the Star Wars fanboy?

A: The Harry Potter fanboygirl!

Phlanx - assume <sarcasm> 1,919 8
03/26/2007 02:51 AM

A: The fife player.

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 02:53 AM

<action>sighs</action>
Someone else is going to have to take up this argument. I really don't give enough of a Shakespeare to continue.

Fine. She's a Frost-ing death eater.

Snork 45,655 12
03/26/2007 02:57 AM

Hey, at least she didn't pay someone to surgically alter her genitals.

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:06 AM

She is not a Death Eater.


She is loyal to The Order of The Phoenix. She hates Voldemort, and she, like Harry, has never trusted Severus Snape. She would not have showed up Snape by giving Harry, Hermione, Ron, Neville, Ginny, and Luna House Points as publicly as she did in Book Five.


I would SO whap you with my umbrella if you were to say such a scurrilous thing in my presence. And by "umbrella," I still mean "baseball bat."

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 03:08 AM

A: The fife player.

If you weren't such a clueless n00b, you'd know that I was a geek and not a dork.

TableTopJane 173,958 15
03/26/2007 03:10 AM

Oh my God. If I chose to get involved in this thread, I could fight with all of your for HOURS because I've read those damn books so many times. However, I do not feel the need to prove what a loser I am, so I'm not going to get involved.

The Rockin' Donkey 77,546 17
03/26/2007 03:10 AM

Do you do anything besides read and drink beer?

TableTopJane 173,958 15
03/26/2007 03:10 AM

Er, I mean, I can't believe you read that Shakespeare.


Fags/she-man.

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:15 AM

Do you do anything besides read and drink decaffeinated Red Rose Tea?


Not really.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/26/2007 03:16 AM

Snape's a good guy.

Humphrey! 51,764 12
03/26/2007 03:19 AM

I so want to rub my naked body all over Hermione's little, tiny boobs.

Humphrey! 51,764 12
03/26/2007 03:21 AM

Note to self - it is not a requirement to post every single thought that pops into your head on Gab.

Snork 45,655 12
03/26/2007 03:21 AM

I want to figure out what's so great about a run-of-the-mill fantasy story for "young adults".

I mean, really, people.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 03:24 AM

I want to figure out why I posted a hiarious classic Simpson's clip in an otherwise pointless thread started by a dude 'chick' who wrote this:

I've read at least book at least once. She's a Death Eater.

is his 'her' own defense, and yet I got nuthin'!

daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 03:25 AM

...but I agree with Hampsta' on one thing:

Snape IS a good guy.

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:25 AM

Incidentally, it is spelt "Mcgonagall."

Snork 45,655 12
03/26/2007 03:26 AM

Baa baa!

BBM: Twisted Sister 6,369 10
03/26/2007 03:27 AM

I think Snape killed Dumbledore so that Albino boy wouldn't have to. I think he is trying to be good but has to fight his evil evil tendencies.
Magonnagal is NOT a death eater. I will continue to beleive she is a good person who is on Harry's side until the last book says anything to refute it.
I'm going to be wrong, aren't I?

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:29 AM

great about a run-of-the-mill fantasy for "young adults."



First, Joanne Rowling has a way with character that few contemporary writers can equal.


Secondly, Snork, is everything you read Dickens, or Tolstoy, or Eudora Welty?

The Rockin' Donkey 77,546 17
03/26/2007 03:30 AM

Twisted Sister... Come out and Play!

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:31 AM

Draco Malfoy is not an albino.

He is a Death Eating Emerson, but not an albino.

BBM: Twisted Sister 6,369 10
03/26/2007 03:32 AM

The actor that plays him is pasty enough to be one.

Then again, so am I. Years of being called Casper have NOT made me bitter.

Snork 45,655 12
03/26/2007 03:42 AM

Oh please, I'd rather suck Coleridge then bore myself to death rereading a couple hundred thousand pages of some dusty classic.

Harry Potter is just another good book out of thousands - it just doesn't warrant all this attention.

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:48 AM

doesn't warrant all this attention.


Yes, and no. Thing is, that if you get kids to read, they may keep on reading.


Reading, especially in boys, was dying out thanks to video games and other electronic divertisments.


However, it is impossible to be fully literate, and a worth-while, participating member of society (and a democracy) without full literacy.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 03:50 AM

Harry Potter is just another good book out of thousands - it just doesn't warrant all this attention.

Yes it does. In addition to turning millions of kids onto the joys of reading,
actually READING, old fashioned paper books, that Hermione chick is really hot!

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 03:54 AM

I should Frost-ing stay the Frost-ing Frost away from this keyboard when I am this tired.


I meant, "full literacy is not possible without reading.

daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 03:59 AM

If I was going to blue pencil your post, Declan, I would have gone for divertisments, first...

Declan McManus, two side dishes included 131,887 36
03/26/2007 04:02 AM

I was reading a rattling good Nineteenth Century novel this afternoon, Daisy.

Snork 45,655 12
03/26/2007 04:03 AM

It only proves once again that:
1)Kids are stupid.
2)Parents are lazy.
3)Advertising and hype can make you eat Shakespeare en masse and enjoy it.

The reason millions of kids discovered the "joy of reading" is because it's a joy. Not because H.P. is some super well-written story, but because "if everyone on them there teevees is doin' it, well, I gots to do it too" hick parents bought the first and only book in their vapid lives.

But - Hermione? Man, I'd pee in her butt.

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 04:19 AM

I'm holding out hope that Snape is not really a sleaze.

And Hermione isn't supposed to be as pretty as she is in the movies, pervs. She had buck teeth until she made Poppy Pomphrey shrink them.

BBM: Twisted Sister 6,369 10
03/26/2007 04:22 AM

Millie, I was really surprised when I saw the movie and Hermione was pretty. Her hair was no where near as bushy as it should have been, and her teeth didn't look like my rats. Although, Ron is about as ugly as I thoguht he would be. I hate how long his hair is.

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 04:24 AM

I know! In the books, her hair is all frizzy and bushy, and she has buck teeth.

Then, in the movies, her has is just a bit fluffy. Please.

Of course, we're talking the movies, where, if they make the actress wear glasses she's considered "ugly".

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 04:25 AM

Hmmm, I was so upset I wrote "has" instead of "hair".

daisypie 49,378 9
03/26/2007 04:27 AM

...if they make the actress wear glasses she's considered "ugly".


I love Dorothy Parker, but she got that one WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

Millie 116,988 28
03/26/2007 04:35 AM

Speak for yourself. You're not a casting director. Have you seen any truly ugly actess in a movie?

O.K. Linda Hunt, but I mean in a starring role?

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
03/26/2007 04:37 AM

Spoiler ahead:


Somebody told me that the old wizard guy dies in one of the books.

Phlanx - assume <sarcasm> 1,919 8
03/26/2007 04:43 AM

Why must you people keep on destroying my beutiful fantasy world?

*runs from thread*

BBM: Twisted Sister 6,369 10
03/26/2007 04:49 AM

Here Phla, I found that A you dropped.

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
03/26/2007 04:50 AM

See? This is why he should change his name.

Phlanx - assume <sarcasm> 1,919 8
03/26/2007 04:51 AM

Not the "real" Phla, but thanks BBM.

BBM: Twisted Sister 6,369 10
03/26/2007 04:55 AM

Your welcome Imposter!

Tweak 18,881 12
03/26/2007 05:02 AM

I know what happens!

Vader is Luke's father!

Phla Sucks. No, not like that. 131,068 34
03/26/2007 05:15 AM

THANK YOU DOGS.

Dawgs 45,655 12
03/26/2007 05:20 AM

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOUT UNLESS I HAVE BANANAS IN MY EARS!

Jeprechaun 58,758 13
03/26/2007 05:22 AM

<action>Takes bananas out of ears</action>

What was that?

Phla Sucks. No, not like that. 131,068 34
03/26/2007 05:24 AM

Whateva! I do what I want!

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
03/26/2007 05:50 AM

See? If you're nice, people say Thank you before slugging you hard in the stomach.

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 07:07 AM

Have you seen any truly ugly actress in a movie?

Barbra Streisand
Sarah Jessica Parker
Tori Spelling
Glenn Close
Bette Midler
Kathy Bates
Renee Zellweger
Rosie O'Donnell
Oprah Winfrey
Shelley Duvall
Whoopie Goldberg



And I even left off the ones who are ugly, but who are considered hot by prevailing taste, like Reese Witherspoon and Kirsten Dunst. And the ones who are ugly, but who I would bang anyway, like Sandra Oh and Minnie Driver.

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 07:12 AM

And the ones who are ugly, but who I would bang anyway


How could I have forgotten the utterly ugly, utterly Frostable Sandra Bernhardt?

The Neeplets waved multi-coloured flags! 35,066 15
03/26/2007 07:19 AM

Whistler, if you think some of those women are ugly how are "real" females supposed to feel?

I have just lost respect for you.

Tweak 18,881 12
03/26/2007 07:52 AM

I found it for you. Well played, Whistler.

Though I can't agree with you about Renee Zellweger.

Chix feels Cookie's pain 286,539 61
03/26/2007 08:57 AM

Professor Minerva McGonagall is no death eater. She is however, a short sighted rule follower. She's foil to Dumbledore's OVERLY aware older confidant character and Snape's cheating for Slithern character in that she follows rules to a fault and gives no advantage to her own house.

She's the authority symbol without Dumbledore's benevolence.

And Rowling left out the obviously implied A in MAcGonagall.

Bitch.

Jaggy - the angel on top of the tree 11,895 13
03/26/2007 09:38 AM

Holy Shakespeare! She's not a death eater, she showed up in Moody/Crouch's foe glass, remember?

And she does kick arse, for an old lady.

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 10:04 AM

Whistler, if you think some of those women are ugly how are "real" females supposed to feel?


Feel pretty enough to be in a movie.

And feel prettier than anyone on that list, because you are.

Really. With which one of my ugly list do you disagree?

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 10:06 AM

Also, Neep, don't tell anyone else I said this, but pretty isn't everything. Some of those gals are great singers, some are very funny and some are talented actresses. Some of them might even be intelligent or pleasant to hang around with, and some might be accomplished in the sack.

There is still, however, no explanation for Rosie O'Donnell.

Anh 11,158 14
03/26/2007 10:14 AM

On a side note...

Whistler, did you ever finish Only Revolutions?

Whistler P. McManus 186,122 44
03/26/2007 10:20 AM

No. I had to put it aside for a while, and now I'm caught up in Norman Mailer's Harlot's Ghost.

Anh 11,158 14
03/26/2007 10:29 AM

Okay. I was just wondering if you were able to get through it and understand what was going on. The whole structure of the book is cool and all, but the poetic stuff just throws me for a loop. I much prefer HoL.

Stone Cold Bikini 62,262 18
03/26/2007 12:15 PM

Yes, and no. Thing is, that if you get kids to read, they may keep on reading.

I don't know if anyone pointed this out because my eyes started glazing over with this geekfest, but that statement only applied to Harry Potter before they started making the movies. Now it's "Oh, I'm not going to bother reading it. I'm just going to wait for the movie to come out." Did you know that Harry Potter is the second most unfinished fiction book? This is behind Vernon God Little, by DBC Pierre, and just ahead of James Joyce's Ulysses. People are more likely to finish reading Ulysses than they are Harry Potter. I think that says something.

They should have at least waited for the entire series to finish before cashing in on the popularity. I will never forgive Rowling for selling out so soon. Any cred she got for encouraging children to read was destroyed when she signed the deal allowing Hollywood to destroy children's independent imagination.

Phuc 237,919 21
03/26/2007 12:38 PM

Damn. Whistler beat me to Streisand.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/26/2007 01:04 PM

Bikini, I used to work for a bookfair company, and you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!

Kids love the books. Grade-schoolers, even particularly young ones, re-read them. Kids are fully aware that the movies only show a little bit of what happens in the books, and regard the movies more or less as a set of illustrations.

There's a huge adult literacy problem in the United States, and I mean huge. It's hidden because the individual illiterate adults hide it.

Ultra-popular books subsidize less-popular ones such as scholarly works and classics. Most titles lose money, but the publishing companies don't care because they know they can make enough profit with the latest Rowling or King to more than make up for it.

How in the world could anyone get accurate data on which books are unfinished? Are there video cameras installed in every kid's bedroom? How can such data be taken seriously?

SquidBoy 19,912 12
03/26/2007 02:11 PM

Grade schoolers may love the books, but now that Hermione's growing up... men love the movies.

Stone Cold Bikini 62,262 18
03/26/2007 02:22 PM

Bikini, I used to work for a bookfair company, and you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!

I used to work for a children's summer camp, dealing with kids and parents of all backgrounds on a daily basis, and I am not wrong wrong wrong, etc, although I wish I was.

I have heard parents say "I just don't have time to read it with my kids" on numerous occasions. For every kid who is actually being encouraged to read, there are a hell of a lot more being plopped in front of a television set.

And my main irritant with the movies still stands: it was made into a film before the rest of the books were written. Let's say every single child who watches the film reads the books. That's great, but they are no longer reading their own story. The beautiful thing about books is how everyone imagines a different story. Sure, the main ideas will always be the same, but the details, the nuances, will always be different.

Until you make a movie. And then you lock the characters into this actor or that actor. You lock the beasts into looking a certain way. You lock events into being a certain way. It's not my story, your story, or anyone's story but that of the director/producer. Kids stop stretching their imaginations, and start visualising the same crap that our society wants them too. Even if they are reading the books, something crucial has been lost. And that is completely unforgivable for me. You can still say it's a great story, because that's true, it is, bravo for that, but it's not brought children back to the joy of reading. Not anymore.

Yeah, this post isn't funny, but whatever. You all can print it off and shove it up your ass.

Dead Robot 67,630 16
03/26/2007 02:51 PM

I say Johnson, fine morning for a hunt, eh wot? Look upon the savanna and we can see a plethora of internet geeks drink heartily from yon watering hole. I suggest the 12 gauge for that large one there. Aim squarely between the eyes, there's a good fellow.

Chi Chi Felipe 161,353 14
03/26/2007 03:27 PM

You people are a bunch of feygs.

UnderEgg 101,398 77
03/26/2007 03:28 PM

While I was reading this: You lock the beasts into looking a certain way, I was thinking of Hermione and instead saw this:

You lock the breasts into looking a certain way.

But whatever. I think Ron is hot.

Fezig 3,711 7
03/26/2007 03:35 PM

All of this arguing over a pointless series of books. Guys please get a Frostin life. Don't waste your day having discussions about trivial and pointless things and then arguing about which one of you is right. It's a waste of time.

Wait a sec...I forgot...I am doing the same thing reading and posting on Zug....nevermind.

Jaggy - the angel on top of the tree 11,895 13
03/26/2007 03:38 PM

your an idiot LOL

The High Priestess, first Gab, Then The WORLD! 58,948 29
03/26/2007 04:03 PM

McGoningal is not a Death Eater, Maggie Smith could never be evil. Snape is Evil. End of discussion. Siruis's brother Regulus Black is the one who stole the real locket at the end of HBP. Harry is going to nail Ginny. Harry then will walk in on Ron getting head from Hermoine, and then pound her in the ass; a la Effiel Tour. Ginny will then walk and and lie under Hermoine and suck her nipple and I'll be back in a few minutes.

300 Spartans and a Taco 61,976 36
03/26/2007 04:07 PM

Snape isn't evil. He only killed Dumbledore because Dumbledore told him he had to.

The High Priestess, first Gab, Then The WORLD! 58,948 29
03/26/2007 04:09 PM

Snape is evil evil evil. Otherwise how will my Snape/Harry shiping fantisies be any good without Snape being the evil top?

300 Spartans and a Taco 61,976 36
03/26/2007 04:11 PM

I'll have to concede that point.

The High Priestess, first Gab, Then The WORLD! 58,948 29
03/26/2007 04:18 PM

Damn straight.

Pumpkin Noggin Cotton Tail 56,642 8
03/26/2007 04:34 PM

I thought Harry was into horses now?

The High Priestess, first Gab, Then The WORLD! 58,948 29
03/26/2007 04:38 PM

I've seen that picutre, of HAary with the horse. It's odd. And I'm not sure it's the good kind of odd.

Pumpkin Noggin Cotton Tail 56,642 8
03/26/2007 04:44 PM

Well, some would say Hermoine is a bit horsey as well...I don't see that.

sockk2 345 6
03/26/2007 11:46 PM

BABYSITTER'S CLUB

Frogpop - I AM asking for it! 173,153 25
03/27/2007 12:41 AM

McGonnagle's a Death Eater. I just rewatched the first movie, and I'm sure of it.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, and I read all of Jaggy and Neep's posts.

A-No-Knee-Mousse 769 7
03/27/2007 01:00 AM

Or instead of having this discussion, you can, in theory, wait four months for the next book.

Jaggy - the angel on top of the tree 11,895 13
03/27/2007 01:59 AM

I love you too Frogpop.

Dumbledore had to be killed by Snape, otherwise he would have died from the poison he drank, and Voldemort would know he'd been in the cave, innit?

The look on Snape's face as he did it was described with the same adjectives used to describe how Harry was feeling as he forced Dumbles to drink the poison. So Snape is good in terms of the war, but just no always nice. Right?

McGonagall's just a sweet old lady, who, as has been mentioned, can kick arse when she has to.

A-No-Knee-Mousse 769 7
03/27/2007 02:11 AM

Dumbeldore's alive. He lives on in the portrait with all the other headmasters.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
03/27/2007 02:17 AM

No, Rowling wouldn't do anything so cheap and decietful as bring back a character when the reader has read a description of the cold corpse.

The Neeplets waved multi-coloured flags! 35,066 15
03/27/2007 02:48 AM

Farscape did.

Aeryn lives!

The Rockin' Donkey 77,546 17
03/27/2007 04:54 AM

Gayest. Thread. Ever.

Pumpkin Noggin Cotton Tail 56,642 8
03/27/2007 02:36 PM

I don't know Donk, I mean, there HAS to be a Trixxie/Declan exchange out there that....no..your right, this tops those.

Jaggylioness 11,895 13
03/27/2007 02:39 PM

Donk, I was naked when I read your post, and it made me sad.

Jaggylioness 11,895 13
03/27/2007 02:40 PM

So I like, put down the camera and deleted your e-mail address. DELETED IT.

Pumpkin Noggin Cotton Tail 56,642 8
03/27/2007 04:35 PM

But you kept mine, right? I said RIGHT?!

Jaggylioness 11,895 13
03/28/2007 02:03 AM

Heh, I stepped into the bath and realised I hadn't started my music, so I hopped out and went over to my laptop, and GABbed a bit while I was there.

Jaggylioness 11,895 13
03/28/2007 02:05 AM

Anybody know how to stop party shuffle in iTunes playing Shakespeare from your whole pool of music? I have some old podcasts in song format, and eventhough they're unchecked so they don't go across to my iPod, they still come up in party shuffle.

Phlanx (Not Phla) 1,919 8
03/28/2007 02:12 AM

Make a playlist of your non crappy songs a set it to random, or just delete your crappy music.

Pumpkin Noggin Cotton Tail 56,642 8
03/28/2007 02:26 PM

And make with the pictures already.

Jaggy NINJA! 11,895 13
01/04/2008 06:12 AM

Coolest. Thread. Ever.

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
01/04/2008 06:59 AM

That's just the breeze on your naked backside.

Santas Sack of BC Bud 13,792 15
01/04/2008 07:51 AM

That's just the breeze on your naked backside

WH started this thread so that would be: That's just the breeze UP YOUR backside

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
01/04/2008 08:57 AM

We all had a lovely image in our heads of Jaggy hopping naked back into the shower.


Go to your room and think about what you've done.

Hollis: emo hunter extraordinaire 7,284 14
01/04/2008 09:31 AM

I think Werehampster is a Death Eater. Either that or he's related to Lupin and is actually a pretty cool guy.

Santas Sack of BC Bud 13,792 15
01/04/2008 10:25 AM

<action>lowers head and slinks out of thread</action>

Go to your room and think about what you've done

Filly 39,193 20
01/04/2008 02:03 PM

Why does everyone think Hermione is that hot? She really isn't and it really bothers me.

Hollis: emo hunter extraordinaire 7,284 14
01/04/2008 02:28 PM

She got cuter as she got older, but she's no JonBenet Ramsey.

...who never actually had a chance to get older, but you get my point.

Dogs Akimbo 211,584 32
01/05/2008 02:03 AM

Speaking of E. Watsons, the blind chick in Red Dragon was hot.

Werehampsta 6,375 8
01/05/2008 02:13 AM

Hell yeah, she was! The only thing I disliked about her performance was that she came off as really whiny and weak in the movie version. That was probably the director's fault.

Phuc 237,919 21
01/05/2008 02:25 AM

Why does everyone think Hermione is that hot? She really isn't and it really bothers me.

Get ugly and repost that if you want the tiniest shred of sympathy.

Pete Schweaty 186,122 44
01/05/2008 10:12 AM

Why does everyone think Hermione is that hot? She really isn't and it really bothers me.


Harry Potter nerds think she's hot because they think since she's in Harry Potter movies, she's a nerd, too. And they think that means they can get her.

I hereby pledge one case of Kleenex for affected GABbers when she marries a rock star or pro athlete in two years.